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Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by Smug in Boots, Jul 1, 2021.

  1. Disco down under

    Disco down under Well-Known Member

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    America notoriously has a ****ing abominable justice system that doesn't stop crime in the slightest. I don't really see holding them up as a success story.

    Punishment is definitely needed. It just might be worth using all we've learned over the passed centuries worth of human science and creating modern punishment that actually works. Not just turning to a broken method that hasn't worked in generations.
     
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    Disco down under Well-Known Member

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    Agree mate. I'm not solely blaming social deprivation. Our society is fueled by greed and excess. If that was addressed (way too far gone) the compulsion to break rules for profit would dry up.
     
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  3. The Norton Cat

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    Its not just greed and excess. People break the law and break the unwritten rules of a polite and caring and society out of arrogance and selfishness.

    I regularly drive on the M25. Often, if there has been a breakdown or an accident, one lane is closed. On a road that busy it leads to tailbacks. Most people people move out of the closed lane as soon as possible and patiently queue. But a significant minority stay in the closed lane until the very last minute so they can avoid most of the queue. Yet, these people don't realise that if they queued in an orderly fashion everyone would get through quicker because people wouldn't have to stop to let them in.

    That's the biggest problem with our society. Too many people refuse to follow the rules that are there for the benefit of the whole of society because it means an inconvenience to the individual. I can't abide that kind of arrogance and selfishness.
     
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  4. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    I don't want to bang on about the good old days but we literally had nowt yet were the happiest kids because no one, on our street, had a telly. When Mr Lyons, at the bottom of the street, got one we all piled in to see it. For the first time we realised how scruffy we looked in our 'hand me downs' and DIY haircuts. Ignorance really was bliss tbh.
     
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    Disco down under Well-Known Member

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    The further we go towards "needing" stuff the more we will **** people over and break the rules to get it.
     
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    Sadly the days of appreciating what you have rather than yearning for what you haven't, have gone for most.
     
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    Ridiculous isn't it. You choose to compete in a sport and there are rules in place. Simple answer is get a haircut :)
     
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    https://www.rac.co.uk/drive/advice/driving-advice/zip-merging/
     
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  9. The Norton Cat

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    the problem these days is that wages are paid monthly into a bank, kids never really 'see' money and if they want summit it goes on the plastic...the world is run with debt whereas if we wanted something we would save up for it (cant afford it, cant have it), really strange and scary i feel to see youngsters starting and living their lives riddled with debt, i cannot shake the feeling that at some point the banks will want to claw it all back.

    maybe this is part of the long term plan, let everyone get debt but push on them the 'importance' of getting on the property ladder so that when they finally kick the bucket the banks can claim the house as payment.
     
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    A mate of mine driving back from the cricket got caught in the most recent M25 accident when a wagon/lorry caught fire!
     
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  12. The Norton Cat

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    Bloody hell. Hope he's alright
     
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  13. Sunderpitt

    Sunderpitt Well-Known Member

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    Yes he was okay but took 2/3 hours extra to get home (Romford)
     
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  14. The Norton Cat

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    Nightmare. Glad I wasn't caught up in that then, I'm (now) just a bit to the east of Romford.
     
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  15. Sunderpitt

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    Don't suppose you play golf? Orsett?
     
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  16. The Norton Cat

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    I don't. I know Orsett though. The course there is supposed to be very good, I believe. Is that right?
     
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    When I was a kid (many many moons ago), I got stopped by the local bobby for riding two up on a bike. He asked my name, which I told him, he said OK I'll be up to see your father later. Wasn't sure what later meant, but every time there was a knock on the door for the next week suddenly I was off to bed. My father, not a bully in any way or form, would have knocked 10 bells out of me for bringing disgrace to the family, because all the neighbours would have seen the bobby come to our door.
    A lot of crime today stems from family values, If the parents don't give a **** the kids won't. If I got a good hiding off a teacher at school, i kept it to myself, if I'd gone home and complained, my old man would have said that there must have been a reason, and i'd have got another good hiding. There is so much of the blame game nowadays, teachers hardly dare say anything to kids for fear of their parents turning up to complain (I know that they are not always in the right), but everyone seems to want to blame something else for their own actions.
    Rant over, bring back the birch and the public stocks!
     
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    I bet the queue would be a mile long for the birches job.
     
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    Where's the queue?
     
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    this is so true, behaviour breeds behaviour
     
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