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How far will England get

Discussion in 'Newcastle United' started by Dr Nickilas Van Helsing, Jun 13, 2021.

  1. Warmir Pouchov

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    Watkins? He's sat at home on the couch mate with Ward Prowse.
     
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    Bloody hell that was shorter than my reply with same info. Are you ok?
     
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  3. Dr Nickilas Van Helsing

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    They should be there and starting.
     
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  4. Dr Nickilas Van Helsing

    Dr Nickilas Van Helsing Well-Known Member

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    Yeah his free kicks are terrible
     
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  5. Dr Nickilas Van Helsing

    Dr Nickilas Van Helsing Well-Known Member

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    Essentially it's the same old story.

    Do well in the qualify round and experiment with players who do well and then play the same old popular faces in the big tournament.
     
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  6. Dr Nickilas Van Helsing

    Dr Nickilas Van Helsing Well-Known Member

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    There's some very good players that just can't get a sniff..
     
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  7. Dr Nickilas Van Helsing

    Dr Nickilas Van Helsing Well-Known Member

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    I'd also like to point out Phillips was the best player on the pitch yesterday in an England shirt and some of us spotted it well before he even got in the squad.

    Tbh credit to Southgate for it, but there are better players that aren't getting games than the players that get in based who they're playing for.

    Too long have England been appeasing the big clubs


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  8. Dr Nickilas Van Helsing

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    It's nothing new I mean Andy Cole couldn't get a cap for England despite scoring 40 goals a season then goes to man united in straight away.

    Shearer couldnt get in for years until eventually it was impossible to leave him out.

    Right now grealish at Villa who's Englands best player by a mile can't get in.

    Danny ings not a sniff

    Ward Prowse captain of Southampton can't get in ahead of rice? Give me a break

    Over the years England managers have done litterally everything including playing injured out of form players rather than give players the chance they deserve and they've not won a ****ing thing.

    England need someone to come in stop being lazy, stop following the lemmings and see who the best players actually are.
     
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  9. Dr Nickilas Van Helsing

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    Serious question

    Will Southgate change it?

    Surely that's not the side for the ko rounds?
     
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  10. Albert's Chip Shop

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    we'll bomb out at the quarters.
     
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  11. Dr Nickilas Van Helsing

    Dr Nickilas Van Helsing Well-Known Member

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    I've been on a roll for a while

    I'm just wondering whether I'll ever come unstuck tbh

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  12. Rafman

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    I was having this argument with my mates the other day.

    I said who's been picking the teams over the years, the FA or the manager?

    It seems to me that name value trumps actual form and talent.

    So many players who have had the season of their life, not picked over bigger names who have been mediocre.

    I remember when we kept including Rooney in the squad despite him never performing at major International tournaments and Lampard and Gerrard in the same side, despite not being able to gel with each other.

    Grealish is by far, the best English talent we currently have. Guys like Ward-Prowse, Watkins, Bamford, Keane, Vardy, Eze, Harrison, Bartley, Mee, Gallagher, Toney, Armstrong etc etc.
     
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  13. Dr Nickilas Van Helsing

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    Kudus to you mate.
     
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  14. Roland Deschain

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    Grealish could be ready made for this tourney. He won’t get the game time, though.

    I’d go with Foden left and Sancho right (I’m just bored with “can’t shoot/won’t shoot” Sterling) and a midfield trio of Grealish, Philips and Henderson, then Chilwell, Mings, Stones and Trippier across the back. Henderson in goal.
     
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  15. JokeInEre

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    Round of 16.
     
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    Don't forget Joey Barton when he was with us in 2010-11.
     
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  17. Dr Nickilas Van Helsing

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    There's been loads
     
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    I think the furthest we will get to is probably Rome, though there is a chance we could get all the way to St Petersburg or only as far as Copenhagen. If we don't make it outside the M25 then we've had a poor tournament or been very unlucky, but at least our carbon footprint will be smaller.
     
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  19. Charlie Dogscock

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    Barton was hardly ever a shoe in for the England team, and being a grade A **** limited his chances somewhat. Same reason Shelvey never got picked when he was good a few years ago.

    Shearer made his debut in 92 when he 21, and from 94 onwards he was always a regular. It was only euro 92 and the 94 qualifiers he missed out cos Taylor favoured Linekar then Ian Wright, as soon as Taylor went he was always there.

    I think we'll definitely see more of Grealish in the tournament as well, went to the Romania friendly at the Riverside and Grealish was the stand out player easily, he'll definitely play more.
     
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  20. Geordieginola

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    With Sterling scoring I can only see Grealish on the bench until Sterling has a stinker. Which is a disgrace if I am honest.

    Grealish will be needed later on though. The Scots would kick the **** out of him. So it’s maybe for the best.

    Foden- apart from hitting the post the other day I don’t recall him doing much more. I know he’s class mind.

    Who do you drop to get Grealish in?

    Then we have Sancho. And Bellingham is going to be class aswell.
     
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