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At the moment everyone has to fill up at a pump so you get queues. The only people using fast charging points would be people who are desperate. Most people would fill up at home or at the hotel and have plenty of range for most journeys.

 

and how are people going to charge up at home, when some people have to park streets away to park a vehicle, especially in permit parking areas, that don't allocate you a space, but several streets to park in?

what happens with people that live in tower blocks?

are we seriously going to litter every street and house with charging points, when are local authorities going to start installing them?

you state there are queues at petrol stations, it's certainly no where near the same as every car needing a 30 minute charge, plus fast charging shortens battery life.

yeah we all know @PINKIE can park his SUV planet destroyer outside his house, but not everyone is Pinkie otherwise we'd all be fooked.

and you are wrong, most people won't be able to charge up at home, unless you are also a Pinkie. They will be forced on to public transport, creating the debate that I saw on TV, the have and the have nots.

if there are charging points in the kerbs, how will this work, are we going to start having allocated parking for every car owner in the UK, I don't think so.

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We'll be dead time they sort out this stupid idea, so not a problem for you and me. I assume Mars will be used to dump all the billions of used batteries.

 

You really haven't thought about this have you. I know you might just use your car to poodle to the shops, but there are thousands if not millions of business drivers out there, that kill current vehicles within a couple of years, batteries don't stand a chance against those heavy users. If they have to fast charge every day, the batteries are not going to last long.

 

Yup, at least you make some sense. We are purposely creating a have and have nots situation. Bit like the pandemic, when city dwellers couldn't go out to green spaces, now we want penalise them for having a car.

It makes perfect sense to change to public transport, but that's what people need to say, rather than all this bolloxs we can charge outside of our homes, when a huge swath of the population can't.

 

I liked your post, only person to have spoke with any degree of intelligience.

 

This ^

 

Good point, so after work, we will all be charging at the same time.

Maybe they will give us allocated time slots.

 

I've not seen them. But that's probably because I haven't been in a motorway service station for a few years.

 

What happens if the test don't work, is there a plan B?

 

I think I've replied to everyone, if I haven't sorry.

Oh and @Archers Road fook off.

 

To be fair, this was quite informative, I didn't know this.

 

By test I don’t mean they’re testing the basic principle of stripping them down retrieving the metals etc, that’s been established. They’ve opened a small factory to work on methods of scaling up the process for what’s coming down the line, so it’s about the process and the speed at which it can be done at massive capacity.

 

The bog standard home chargers available now can be set with your phone to use off peak electricity, as if your car is parked up on your drive all night you don’t need it to charge at peak times and peak cost.

The next gen chargers will be 2 way. So you might plug it in at peak time when you get home, it’ll discharge into the grid if required, to provide renewable energy at peak time, then charge up off peak in the middle of the night.

The planning for the shizzle has been going on for beards mate, it’s really quite interesting when you read up on it all.

 

The issue will still be that many homes in the UK don’t have drives or even parking outside the homes, so being able to “plug in” is going to be a logistical nightmare.

 

The national grid already has what they call “Triads” which effectively is a process for load shedding between November and February, which is when the highest peak demand is required. Many manufacturing companies that are power hungry (mine included) have deals with the supplier, which provides better tariffs, if we can shed load when required.
Adding to that peak demand, where people arrive home from work and plug the car in is not really an option IMO, when we currently cannot cope with plugging the kettle in!
It was only recently, that the industry celebrated going 24 hrs without having to bring a coal fire power station on line.

 

Yeah that’s an issue, converting street lamps into charge points will assist but not remove it.

 

@brb Britannia Refined Metal in Northfleet, had one of the largest battery recycling plants in Europe 25 years ago. Stripping out the metals from the plastics is a well established process as Tobes said.

 

Bit annoyed that it looks like I’ll be in the boneyard before I ever get the jet pack and hover car I was promised. I feel cheated tbh

 

That's good. I'm learning from you guys. I saw the problems, so wondered how they were going to resolve them, and I'm not a very good reader of books etc at the best of times.