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The Euros 20/21 thread

Discussion in 'The Premier League' started by Toonitus, May 25, 2021.

  1. Sucky

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    @luvgonzo said it was Bollicks too <laugh>

    Mornin btw
     
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    He'd have his arse handed to him by the likes of Ronaldo and Mbappe.

    All Southgate has picked is four wing backs. All the ****ing same. Trippier possibly more conventional right back but still.

    He should have also picked an actual defender, even if it's James who misses out instead.

    Why would I 'watch' Trent ****ing Alexander Arnold, out of interest? I'd rather nail my bollocks to a plank than watch Liverpool.

    Is it having intently studied AWB that you've both wrongly decided he's ****?
     
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    Monring.
     
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    <doh>Hes already had mabappe and Ronaldo in his pocket bro.

    Ronny had to switch sides when they beat us the cl final.

    Mbappe done nothing against him in 2 legs when we dumped them out too.

    But of course you wouldnt know that cos as you say you don't watch him. It's easier I guess to regurgitate rubbish about he can't defend.
     
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    #rantmode
     
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    Some serious Wan bukkake butthurt goin on here.

    Not even in the provisional squad ffs. <whistle>
     
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    Tbf it would be a good option to have someone who is just a good full back so that you have different types of players available for different scenarios. That seems to be beyond a lot of managers though.
     
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    Precisely this. The 'Can't defend' narrative is driven by the media and rival fans. No one is saying he is the best defensively but he's by no means poor or considered a liability. This is a lad who plays in a high risk / high line defence and is responsible for covering large spaces. LFC defence (prior to this year) has been one of the best across Europe for 2 years.

    Trent has had numerous quality games against the best opposition but you won't hear about it because it doesn't fit the narrative.

    At the end of the day, you have a right back who is solid defensive but absolutely ELITE going forward. Why the hell would you not try to build around such a player? Even if Trent was a liability, you would still want him in the team because he's a match winner. His assists and expected assists are up there with the best attackers in world football!
     
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    And again, the narrative around AWB is that he's some excellent defender. The truth is, he's not. He's an elite tackler but that is literally one small part of defending. His positioning, reading of the game, attacking are all so so average.

    Put it this way - Trent's defending is levels above AWB's attacking.
     
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    Which doesn't concern me, I'd as soon he doesn't go.

    This is more a reflection of Southgate picking four more or less the same right backs.

    That's the odd thing. AWB is a more conventional defender than TAA, who is a more modern right back. As are Walker and Tripper and James.
     
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    That another myth, that Wan bukkake is better than those picked defensively.

    Utd concede 2 more goals than us this season.

    A season when trent had 2 reserve players beside him may I add.

    Let that sink in.
     
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    So?

    He'll be playing for England, not Liverpool.

    Remains to be seen if he's effective in that environment because, in case you hadn't noticed, they don't play the same set up.

    Does a little bell ring on your laptop when someone dares question how world class a Liverpool player is by the way?
     
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    Good job Rashford is in the same team then I suppose.

    That I have watched.
     
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    Monrign mate, thanks for highlighting the point.
     
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    This is the point I'm making. Southgate is useless but he SHOULD be playing to the strengths of our best players. Trent is one of the few world class players in the squad, along with Kane and Sterling.
     
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    Oh that's alright then. <laugh>
     
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    Dont think jimmy was here defending trents World class tag, that ****s just fact. Its the "hE CarNt DerfeNd tHo" from people who admittedly don't watch him that needs shooting down<whistle>
     
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    You presented a bunch of meaningless stats to back him up yesterday bruv.

    It was all just Twitter guff, based on someone else, watching them.

    That's there to be shot at, soz. Especially given your counter argument is that Wan Bissaka is ****. I assume you watch all United's games to form that opinion?

    Or is it just that Liverpool conceded two fewer goals that finds that conclusion?
     
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    They're hardly meaningless. What is meaningless if picking single incidents in single matches to paint a false picture of the player - which is what happens to Trent all the time.

    Every player makes mistakes, including VVD but when Trent does it, it's amplified.
     
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    You said he can't defend. I put up some numbers to show you he's actually better defensively that all those picked.

    I dont watch much of the others like you don't watch trent so Yeh it's what I've got to work with.

    You also said he'd be turned inside out by Ronaldo and mbappe, but more than handled the pair of em when they did come across him.

    Those comments we're also there to be shot at too.


    Personally I hope trent doesn't go for a few reasons. But enough of the he can't defend bullshit cos that's all it is.
     
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