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Relegation Countdown

Discussion in 'Wycombe' started by Ron, Apr 22, 2021.

  1. philhythe

    philhythe Well-Known Member

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    I see the Derby takeover has fallen through, what happens now is anybody's guess
     
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  2. sensiblegreeny

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    Well so much for a take over being likely. The worse their story gets the better your chances become I would have thought.
     
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  3. philhythe

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    Have just finished reading a bit in the Daily Mail about Derby the takeover failed because they owe somewhere in the region of 60millon, they reckon Morris the present owner would have to sell the club for £1 plus give the new buyers 30millon to make it worthwhile. If they don't go down this season just finished, they will be odds-on for next season
     
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  4. Ron

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    Thinking about it, I reckon Wycombe should press for a decision on Derby as we are in a bit of a predicament in terms of contracts and new signings. Why? Well:
    1. What player who wants to play Championship football is going to be attracted to a relegated club
    2. Depending on what League we will be playing in next season we would go for different players and expect to pay different wages
    3. If we want to extend contracts on key players, knowing what league we will be in makes a big difference to the terms we can offer
    4. We may want to release players if we stay up whereas we may want to keep them if we are relegated
    5. Prolonged delay makes it impossible to offer any contract and we could well miss out on what may have been intended targets

    The whole uncertainty must make it very difficult to know what to do this summer

    We need to know what League we will be in next season. Surely the EFL can at least tell us that
     
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    The longer it takes the more likely it is that Derby will not be docked points. I agree with you Ron the FA should be pressed for a decision in fairness to all. It isn't exactly rocket science stuff is it. Either it's a fine or it's points and if it's points then it will relegate them this season as a points deduction is intended to do. But, we all know the FA don't we.............
     
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  6. philhythe

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    Put it this way if Derby are deducted points it will be next season & why for all the bull**** written about clubs reaching their potential the EFL would rather have Derby in the Championship than us.
     
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  7. philhythe

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    On another note I see Poxford have made another cock up of the play-offs
     
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  8. Ron

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    Agreed, so why can't they just announce that if a points deduction is decided it will apply next year and we can all get on with some certainty. If it is likely to be a fine only then:
    1. It at least confirms what League we are in
    2. I wonder how they will pay it
     
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    Reminds me of a few seasons ago when Gareth had to release, Harriman Cowan-hall etc and sorted his squad out with young free players Pattison, Gardiner-smith etc. Then we had the takeover and were able to bring in the likes of McCarthy, Fred and Wheeler.
    He said he missed out on some targets due to the uncertain situation.
     
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    EFL Podcast is worth listening too, from Garth talking on there I can not see him going anywhere else at the moment
     
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    Good news, wasn’t his dream to manage in the championship? If he can do that with Wycombe, then maybe only 2 clubs would tempt him away.
     
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  13. Ron

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    3? Preston, QPR and Blackburn
     
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  14. philhythe

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    & luckily two of them are a long way from where he has lived for a long while, the Nathan Jones incident with leaveing Luton & going to Stoke & then going back might have made Garth think is it worth it, as he says in the podcast WHY & he has complete control of what he needs, & the club trust him completely.
     
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  15. Ron

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    All this delay is pissing me off a bit. I just can't begin to understand why the EFL can't decide what the punishment is and/or when it will be applied;

    Options
    1 point deduction - waste of time and hardly a punishment. In fact no punishment at all if applied this year
    2 point deduction - hardly a punishment if applied next year so would only make sense to apply this year
    3 or more point deduction - no point in applying this year as would have no more impact than a 2 point deduction
    Fine would be a let off as whatever it is, it would be loose change compared to the debt they have

    So I would guess the only possible way they would get relegated would be if the penalty was a 2 point deduction. Why the EFL cannot rule out that option now is beyond me
     
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    As said previously. if it should be points then it must be applied this season. The reason points deductions is applied is that it either relegates the club in the current season or, if it wouldn't then to set them on the back foot for the next. In this case it would be this season. If it doesn't apply then it isn't a punishment at all. I repeat my previous post. The longer it goes on the less likely it is that they intend a punishment at all. I can almost visualise the FA people in a room. "If we dock points what will that do".........."relegate Derby and reprieve Wycombe"....."who the feck are Wycombe"........"I dunno, lets do nothing"........"Agreed and carried unanimously".
     
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    Totally agree Greeny like I said earlier the EFL want Derby in the Championship not us
     
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    Then why don't they just confirm our relegation. Are they that spineless?
     
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    Odds on a 6 point deduction to be applied next season. EFL have been accused of not having the balls to relegate Derby. However, it seems it is not an EFL decision ???

    “The Club and the EFL have agreed that the matter shall now be remitted back to the original DC who can determine what, if any, consequences arise from the partial success of the EFL’s amortisation charge,"

    In a statement, the EFL said there is “no definitive timescale for a determination on (the) sanction” that will be placed on Derby.

    The sanction for breaking these rules has not been decided yet, but the EFL wants the punishment to be applied this season.
     
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    What happens next?
    The Athletic understands Derby will fight when the sanction is applied. The EFL is also running out of time to have a punishment imposed on the club this season. Instead, sanctions could be applied to Derby’s 2021-22 campaign. This would be met with opposition. As reported by The Athletic, Wycombe Wanderers are considering the option of legal action to send Derby County down to League One instead of them. "We have an obligation to our fans, players and coaches to look at everything and go from there,” Rob Couhig, owner of Wycombe, told The Athletic after Saturday's match.
     
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