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Discussion in 'Queens Park Rangers' started by Stroller, Jun 25, 2015.

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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

Poll closed Jun 24, 2016.
  1. Stay in

    56 vote(s)
    47.9%
  2. Get out

    61 vote(s)
    52.1%
  1. ELLERS

    ELLERS Well-Known Member

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    Stupid pig 2222er.
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    This is what Johnson aspires to.
     
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    ELLERS Well-Known Member

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    Mmm after 3 Labour incidents that I read about yesterday regarding suspensions and racist comments I wouldn’t start throwing stones in glass houses.
     
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    ...and Blair before him. They get comparatively poor pay during the job and the perks come later. This is the same wrong approach as the MP's expenses scandal.

    I'd pay the PM more and tighten the rules that apply after holding office
     
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    The phrase "Good afternoon ladies and gentlemen" now banned by the wokies. So sad, its funny...
     
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    Israel. Am I the only one that feels more than uncomfortable that Palestinians are being turned out of their houses so that they can be taken over by Jewish settlers on the grounds that Jewish people lived in the area 2000 years ago?
     
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    The whole Israel question a cluster f**k. Not an easy solution.
     
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    It is, and it's nearly impossible for the Israeli government to deal with the dogmatism of the likes of Hamas. But Israel has to be the height of reasonableness if it doesn't want to lose international support. If it starts throwing out Palestinians of their houses and replacing them with Jewish families, they'll be accused of a type of apartheid. They need to tread carefully imo
     
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    I never get involved with that argument because as you say its a 'cluster f**k'.
     
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    I thought the project fear media had been quiet this week. Is it because of some of these news headlines?

    Five million EU citizens apply to settle in UK

    I thought they were all going home?

    Visa-free touring possible in 17 EU countries post-Brexit, says Dowden
    Funny, I was told artists wouldn't be able to tour the EU?

    Scottish salmon farmers' first quarter sales to EU up by 74%
    Hang on they said they wouldn't do a fish trade?

    Non-EU imports outpace goods from EU
    Let's all laugh at those deals with Vietnam and Co.

    Exports to Europe return to pre-Brexit levels
    No, this must be wrong. We were told that they wouldn't trade with us.

    UK economy powers ahead
    Strong Growth in March Shows U.K. Economy Headed for Swift Recovery

    Lies I tell you!

    As the weeks go by most of these myths are getting busted.
     
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    So the new Northern Ireland First Minister believes that God created the World 6,000 years ago.

    Still, more credible than all this 'Brexit's going brilliantly' nonsense.
     
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    Was originally for the israelies and against palestine and terrorism when i was younger. As you say i don't think anyone is against the Jews having a place of their own after WW2. What they don't teach you its the land grab year after year from israel who forcibly take more land. Its at this point that it's obvious that the bad guys here are the Israelies (although it is far more nuanced than this).
     
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    Yes, it is more nuanced. You can argue that Israel, surrounded by enemy states, wants to strengthen and grow. And who came blame Jewish people for wanting a homeland after what they went through last century?

    But I feel uncomfortable about throwing Palestinians out of the homes when they've done nothing wrong and broken no laws. Israel has a pretty right wing government - that idiot Trump was a big supporter which says a lot. It's time for moderate Jewish voices in Israel to be heard
     
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    Yea obviously theres the hate of the arabs at the Jews and the whole history, but this is never going to end as israel forcibly invades and takes more land year on year which ineivitably follows with a skirmish and more dead palestianians and israelies
     
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    What would be really great would be the Hamas rocket's not falling short on Palestinian territory and killing Palestinians but actually hitting their targets and killing Israelis

    Actually what would be better would be some sort of agreement between all parties to allow everyone to peacefully exist but that's unlikely any time soon
     
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    One hour's notice...

     
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    Nice to see and hear in London
     
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