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Discussion in 'Tottenham Hotspur' started by remembercolinlee, Feb 1, 2017.

  1. humanbeingincroydon

    humanbeingincroydon Well-Known Member

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    And with that in mind...

    Vulture Watch

    Fulham
    Joachim Andersen
    (CB, Denmark, 24yo, contracted until 2024 but Lyon are open to selling)
    Ademola Lookman (LW, England, 23yo, contracted to 2024 but Monster Energy Dusseldorf seem keen to offload)
    Steven Sessegnon (RB, 20yo, England, contracted until 2022)

    West Brom
    Sam Johnstone
    (GK, England, 28yo, contracted until 2022)
    Matheus Pereira (RW, Brazil, 25yo, contracted until 2024)

    Parma
    Hernani
    (DM, Brazil, 27yo, contracted until 2023)
    Yann Karamoh (RW, 22yo, France/Ivory Coast, contracted until 2023)
    Andrea Conti (RB, Italy, 27yo, contracted to Milan until 2022)
    Yordan Osorio (CB, 27yo, Venezuela, contracted until 2024)
     
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  2. humanbeingincroydon

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    CB Watch
    Hopefully not him
     
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  3. Dier Hard

    Dier Hard G'day mate!

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    "On the footsteps" is certainly a change from "monitoring", "are interested in" or "are on the verge of". Pretty sure we were briefly linked with him last summer too.


    There's been more reports of Aurier to PSG today as well. He's never really made a secret he'd like to return to Paris. This one may actually have legs, seen €12m being quoted, quite a loss on what we paid but with just over 12 months on his contract left I think it's reasonable enough.
     
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  4. Lovearsenalcock

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    never heard of him, sounds promising, look forward to seeing him in a league cup game v Oldham Athletic in a few years time, let’s get him in
     
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  5. PowerSpurs

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    Sunk costs don't matter. Aurier is worth nothing at the end of next season. So the correct calculation is: is the opportunity cost of keeping him less than what he will deliver in a season. The cost of keeping him is his wages plus the transfer fee forgone. So will he return about £14m of added value in a season. Nowhere near I would have thought.....as if he has been doing that already he was an excellent signing.
     
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  6. Dier Hard

    Dier Hard G'day mate!

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    Not a great business model though, signing big money players then potentially selling them for minimal fees after they’ve aided the team’s regression in the last few years. Continue on the trend we’ve been going with signings over the last 5 years and London Derbies against Crystal Palace will have a bit more spice to them in the battle for 13th.
     
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  7. PowerSpurs

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    As we paid €25m for Aurier and gave him a five year deal presumably around €5m a year then we gain provided he adds €10m of value a year. If PSG are prepared to pay €12m plus his wages to get him a year early they must calculate he is worth close to €20m a year to them. On what basis that might be true is difficult to say having watched him play for four years, but being able to sell a player for more than a fifth of his purchase price after four years is an indication of success, not failure.
     
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  8. Dier Hard

    Dier Hard G'day mate!

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    Since his signing, amongst others, we’ve progressively finished lower each season, he’d played backup to Trippier for two of his seasons and then has been first choice the last two, in which we’ll have finished outside the top four on both occasions. Replacing him will cost us probably another £24m-£30m and we’ll need his replacement to be significantly better if we want Spurs to get back into the CL spots and beyond. Players that are partly responsible for the regression of your team are in no way considered a success.
     
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  9. humanbeingincroydon

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    Los Ladrones and Milan (so not Inter, as I predicted) have also been linked with Aurier this week. In other words, we might get a decent slug of cash for him

    In barely related news, it's been reported that we've exercised the option to renew CCV's contract for another year, and with Bournemouth reportedly keen to sign him that's probably another couple of million (plus add-ons and maybe a sell-on fee, no doubt) in the bank
     
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  10. Citizen Kane.

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    That would be true if we were talking about a stable asset. For example a museum purchases a piece for an exhibition and while it is on display, x visitors to the museum briefly enjoy looking at it, then the museum sells it to another collection a few years down the line for a percentage of its original cost. The analogy also works with selling a car. The owner is happy to sell at a significant 'loss' because they recognise that said loss is sunk into usage, wear and tear and the relative money saved by not taking taxis or renting a car.

    Aurier though has been the equivalent of the museum realising after it is already too late that it actually purchased a forged piece and seldom few visitors want to look at it as a result. Or a car owner who realises that the car can only drive in reverse and doesn't know the difference between left and right. In other words, the gain of having a car is drastically offset by the losses of the wider damages it causes until whatever a second hand dealer pays you is irrelevant - you just want the car gone.
     
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    While I happen to agree with you and @Dier Hard that Aurier is a terrible player, if anyone is willing to pay around £10m for him perhaps all three of us are wrong.....
     
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  12. humanbeingincroydon

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    Looking at PSG's squad, there's a simple reason to explain why they would be looking at him: their HG balance is atrocious, so if there's a cheap way to rebalance it and also fix their RB spot as Florenzi is a loan option who's already 30 while Dagba's a squad option who is perpetually injured, who are we to stand in the way of helping out the most afflicted minority in football, Middle Eastern billionaires using football clubs as a status symbol?
     
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    Because (this is aimed at nobody in particular), Spurs fans are obsessed with finances and profit/loss rather than if a player is good or not. Like with Kane, I suspect some wouldn’t be too gutted at selling him if the price was high enough, when in reality it would massively weaken the team and judging by past experience, his successor would be some dud from Spain or France.
     
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    The only person on this board obsessed with us selling Kane to reinvest in the squad got banned for being an insufferable bellend

    Not to be confused with those obsessed with us selling Kane for other reasons
     
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    Aurier showed what he's good at against Sheffield United, when he was on the front foot all game and didn't have to defend much.
    If he returns to PSG, then that's what he'll be doing in most of their league games.
    He's not right for us, but that doesn't mean that he's wrong for everyone else.
     
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    Provided they don't field him in any CL games that makes sense. But Man City have two right backs who are in a different class entirely and surely that is what PSG need to be aiming at.
     
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  17. PowerSpurs

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    I agree about Kane because he is indeed irreplaceable. However, If Barcelona had bought Eriksen or Dele from us for the price they paid for Coutinho, I suspect it would have made us hugely better.
     
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    City have three. They loaned one of them out to Sporting for two years and they just won the league.
    Pedro Porro picked up his first cap for Spain in March.

    As Croydon pointed out earlier, PSG have a homegrown player problem.
    Top French players also go for a premium and they're trying to keep hold of their flagship players, so corners have to be cut.
     
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    We should be taking a look at Tosin Adarabioyo too, in my opinion.
    Homegrown, used to playing alongside Andersen and playing in the country/league and might not cost too much.
     
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  20. humanbeingincroydon

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    The Sheikh Mansour team have a 20% sell-on clause

    Because as we all know, they're short on a few bob...
     
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