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Transfer Rumours United's ever on going rebuild , are we nearly there yet?

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  1. cytrax

    cytrax Well-Known Member

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    Why is this even a fact? It appears that only Manchester United submits to this madness of paying stupid money to get players. Ironically the best player that we have got in the past decade happens to be Bruno at a fee that many will now argue was below his true worth even at the time of signing him.

    Hopefully Ed Woodward’s replacement breaks that lazy trend of only having a plan A.
     
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  2. Treble

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    Which is exactly why I want us to try and unearth the next big thing (like Bruno) here and abroad.

    I've posted earlier that Haaland was bought by Dortmund for £19m. Why aren't we doing that? We would've still paid about £30m instead of £19m but it would be a lot cheaper AND a lot easier to buy those players.
     
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  3. Big Ern

    Big Ern Lord, Master, Guru & Emperor

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    pfff, you paid £85m for a tugboat, with that as a price gauge Rice is worth £200m+, then we have Man City and Chelsea sniffing around as well, which is going to bump up the price. I think you also have to consider he's just turned 22, so you'd get 10 years service out of him.
    Then you have his character, he loves it at West Ham and has stated more than once that he'll only leave if West Ham accept a huge offer for him. He's not the type to cause a stink and, as much as our fan base hate them, the one criticism they can't have of GSB is they do try to keep hold of our better players, unlike previous boards who rolled over to have their tummy tickled every time a bid came in.
    £100m for a 22 year old first XI England international (and future captain) is a bargain.
    You do try, it's just that a lot of the time it doesn't work out. It's the same for everybody, all looking for the next big thing.
     
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  4. cytrax

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    What a load of nonsense!!! Just because we misspent on players doesn’t help justify ridiculous price tag, especially in post covid world.

    As great as any player is outside of one in a generation pool, there’s always another one somewhere that is just as good but far cheaper. It is up to the clubs to do their homework and stop being stupid.
     
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  5. Chief

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    I thought we had unearthed the next big thing, Greenwood? I don't l see the point in going out and buying another potential striker when we have at least one already on the books.

    We need to buy ready made, cast iron guaranteed. Be that Kane or a cheaper Ings.

    We've also got another season out of Cavani, all of which would then give us actual options at centre forward.
     
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  6. Chief

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    As for Rice, he'd be a great signing but not one that is absolutely necessary.

    The first choice midfield should be Pogba McTominay and Fernandes. There's then Fred and DVDB as back up and bringing Garner back, plus Matic still chugging along.

    Priorities would be centre forward, Sancho and a centre half.
     
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  7. cytrax

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    The irony of even wanting Sancho is that Greenwood has had a better season. Sancho is a good player to have but I hope he doesn’t come in at the expense of more game time for Greenwood.
     
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    We really don't. And rarely have, even in Fergie's days. We'll allow another club to take a calculated punt and then pay triple the price to buy off them a couple of years later. Two good examples you can relate to are Rio and Carrick. Haaland would be another example, not that we'll be signing him. Which is why I want us to try for Weghorst now.
     
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  9. Chief

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    Not really mate, Sancho is a right wing, Greenwood isn't.
     
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    Kane is made of glass at the moment, perhaps that's because his heart isn't in it at Spurs at the moment, but he'd be and expensive gamble if he spends half the season on the bench. If you could get Son and Kane, that's a different story as I suspect neither is as good without the other. I'd pass and go elsewhere.
     
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  11. Chief

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    I think if we bought Son that would be me done with United.

    We can't buy men who cry when somone brushes their face with the end of a finger.

    He can go and get to ****, quite frankly. And, if they come as a pair, both can.
     
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  12. cytrax

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    Yeah Chief, but Greenwood has essentially been starting on the right for most of the games that he's started. If Sancho comes in, then Greenwood gets benched. I happen to think that he does a great job on the right cutting in and getting his goals from there.
     
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    He's filled in there.

    It's not really his actual position going forward. Unless we we plan to play with
    limited actual width from our front three forever.

    It's our weak position and needs to be addressed properly.

    I don't think Greenwood would miss out as such, he'd just move more centrally.

    Ultimately, in order to compete with City (and Chelsea I reckon) we will need one or two more options.

    Like it or not, City have two £50 million+ players in every position in the team. Three, when it comes to full backs and centre halves!

    We need to bolster our options.
     
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    I agree with your points here, especially the lack of width in the team play. It is what essentially kills us during those tight games against defensive teams. But when I look at Sancho, I actually don't think he gives that outright winger of a player. He moves more to the middle than he is to the wing. That's not necessarily a bad thing, but I suspect it is already aligned with how we play. He may push Rashford to the right too because he's played more on the left side this season. I'm not even sure what his best position would be.

    Having said that, if we get Sancho and another central forward, Greenwood would suffer, for sure! If we get Sancho, keep Cavani, then I'd rather we focus on a central defender and let our forward players duke it out for goals.
     
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    So good to see that Cavani is staying for another season. No need for another expensive striker, in my opinion.
     
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    Completely agree.

    Cavani stays and Greenwood and Rashford develop further.

    That money can be spent elsewhere.

    Still think Sancho would be a good signing, plus Rice and a centre half.
     
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    If we can get those three and get Pogba to sign a new contract, it’s going to be an all out war for next season.
     
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    “Manchester United no longer view Borussia Dortmund's England winger Jadon Sancho, 21, as a priority signing - partly because of the emergence of his international team-mate Mason Greenwood.”
    -According to Manchester Evening.

    There’s merit to the thinking around that article given Greenwood’s recent form. As I mentioned before, if Sancho comes in this term, Greenwood will be affected. Especially since Cavani is now bound to stay.

    This is why I have my doubts that we would be paying extortionate amounts to get Sancho in this year.
     
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  19. Chief

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    Cavani won't start every game as centre forward at 35 years old.

    So we've got Greenwood, Rashford and Martial as alternatives. Add Diallo and Dan James to that, they are all also vying for the wide attacking roles.

    Is that all enough to genuinely go for the league? Not sure it is myself. I still think Sancho is a worthwhile purchase.

    Definite priority is another centre half and maybe that DCM, but an additional right wing wouldn't go amiss.
     
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    I agree with Chief. It's great Cavani has signed but that in no way makes up for 2 positions.

    Yes we can put off bringing in a top CF, but that only works if you're bringing in a quality right wing forward i.e. Sancho as there is still a void there.

    I think there are 3 positions and it's nice that those positions are clear - RW, a CM, and a CB - 3 positions and we really will be a force to be reckoned with next season.
     
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