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The Premier League Thread

Discussion in 'Southampton' started by TheSecondStain, Jun 28, 2016.

  1. saintrichie123

    saintrichie123 Well-Known Member

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    Graham sourness talking sense on sky
     
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    Manchester United P-P Liverpool
     
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    Probably the easiest slot to reschedule it is to play it on FA Cup Final weekend, which Man Utd already have off. And then move the WBA-Liverpool to the previous midweek (which both of those clubs already have off).
     
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    Looks like the Super League is up and running then. This is the clearest message yet to all the critical football governing bodies that they have to take action against the people behind this idea in this country and the rest of Europe. Clear red card for me. No VAR needed.
     
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    What did he say? Roughly.
     
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    Didn't appreciate the service in Tesco's and issues a red to the check out girl?
     
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    Micha Richards was talking about players like grealish and Kane using there body's to get the foul(ie throwing oneself to the floor). Sourness said it is cheating and micha said its not. Sourness then came up with some good insight into diving to buy a foul
     
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  9. Ian Thumwood

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    I am surprised that there has not been more about the Man Utd v Liverpool match on this thread. It is a strange situation to comment on for fans of football clubs other than Man Utd. Most supporters would tend to back the protests and have sympathy with how the Glazers have run their football club even though putting Man Utd in to substantial debt has hardly put their club in to Portsmouth-like freefall. Working yesterday afternoon, I had hoped to hear the commentary of the match n Radio 5 but instead heard some very strong arguments in favour of direct action by supporters as well as some equally vociferous arguments against the protests. The element of criminal damage was over-played and the fact that a police officer was bottled will probably mean that the repercussions against the fans will undermine the arguments. (The clips of TV seemed to show the coppers giving the fans a good go, though.)

    There seemed to be a consensus amongst the supporters that the Glazers were probably blissfully unaware of what was unfolding at Old Trafford. The fact that they are so unpopular does not seem to bother them in the slightest and you can fully understand why more direct action had to take place to raise the profile of what is happening at Manchester and to football in general. I totally agree that the identity of the club has been stolen and, for the likes of the Glazers, they will consider the potential wealth from countries like China as a better source of revenue from fans that those people who turn out week in, week out, in the grey and rainy weather in Manchester.

    I think that a lot of supporters of other clubs will see the irony in these protests and if it had happened to any other club where the owners had exacerbated the travails of the fans, they would be sympathetic. Unfortunately, supporters of clubs outside the "Big six" are unlikely to have much sympathy. When the Premier League was first mooted, fans of many clubs were aghast and saw this as a further step in the route to empower the larger clubs at the expense of the smaller ones. I think the balance of power had started to change prior to this with Liverpool's dominance in the 1980s yet the immediate beneficiaries of the Premier League were Manchester United. From the mid 1990s onwards they dominated football in this country and also considered themselves so big that they could snub the FA cup. So, I would have to say that my sympathy towards the United fans is not too great as their club was instrumental in causing a situation where the rich clubs got richer and clubs like Nottingham Forest who had won the European Cup slid in to obscurity. At that time, Man Utd fans were quite happy to see this imbalance and the spoils of commercially serve to benefit their club. They were not protesting regarding the fate of those football clubs who were called in to administration when their finances collapsed as the face of football changes radically.

    Part of me is strongly against the likes of the Glazers buying English football clubs and seeing football purely as a business and not understanding the social aspects of football. In contrast, you just wish that these protests had been made by supporters from another club and not the wining ingrates from Manchester who do not really understand what ill-fortune really means in football. They could well do with listening to fans of clubs like Chester, Stockport, Bolton, Brighton, Portsmouth or Bury to understand what it really means to have a grievance.
     
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    I suppose we are in a similar boat? The only way to settle our Ownership problem is through dialogue, our problem is that there is no one to talk to and no organisation to present a case.

    Resulting to encouraging civil disobedience has never solved any problem and often brings a genuine grievance in to disrepute and damages the cause, innocent people get hurt.

    I doubt that there are many Saints supporters who have any respect for the current Owners and would want change, but it could be worse.

    Only time will tell what is going to happen, there will be change, whether that will be to our benefit is in the lap of the gods.
     
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  11. ChilcoSaint

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    Wolves go ahead at the Hawthorns courtesy of a flukey goal by Fabio Silva. I personally don’t care how flukey it was, but hopefully West Brom don’t come back at them. As it stands the Baggies would have to win their last 4 games by huge scores to overtake us.
     
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    Good news - we can’t come 19th or 20th if things stay like this ...... just need one more result to go our way .... :emoticon-0141-whew:
     
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    Putting it simply, if West Brom lose tonight, we need one more win to be safe whatever else happens. Might as well do the double over Liverpool then!
     
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    Mike Dean in as substitute ref at half time ..... what chance of a red card, VAR controversy in the 2nd half? :emoticon-0103-cool:
     
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    Are we still worried about West Brom and Fulham? I've stopped checking their results.
     
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    Was just coming here to say exactly this
     
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  17. ChilcoSaint

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    You know me, I prefer not to count chickens until the stable door has bolted, or something.
     
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    The door has the bolt across it, just looking for the padlock key to lock it⚽⚽
     
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    Finished 1 - 1.
     
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    Finished 1-1, not enough for West Brom.
     
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