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Match Day Thread Plymouth v Sunderland – Saturday 1st May 2021 - KO 15:00

Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by RTB, Apr 29, 2021.

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Your Prediction

Poll closed May 1, 2021.
  1. Home win (PAFC)

    18.5%
  2. Away win (SAFC)

    69.2%
  3. Draw

    10.8%
  4. Meh - sack them all

    1.5%
  1. TopCat_

    TopCat_ Well-Known Member

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    Would you rather we played Charlton?

    :emoticon-0107-sweat:emoticon-0107-sweat
     
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  2. The Norton Cat

    The Norton Cat Well-Known Member

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    So what makes him an idiot then? The 14 game unbeaten run? The breaking of a short losing run today? Securing a place in the playoffs? Our first Wembley win for 48 years?
     
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  3. SAFC4ever

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    The capitulation of the last few weeks. He was a dreadful appointment. Even if we win the play offs we need to be brave and make the change.
     
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  4. marcusblackcat

    marcusblackcat SAFC Sheriff
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    Whilst I don’t rate Flanagan, he had Dembele in his pocket second half against Posh in our first game. And he’s apparently their best player
     
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  5. The Norton Cat

    The Norton Cat Well-Known Member

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    Every manager loses games sometimes. We weren't ever heavily beaten and the two games prior to today were simply unlucky. In no way does that constitute a capitulation. I think he's made a significant difference to an average squad.
    What makes him a dreadful appointment?
     
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  6. malagamackem

    malagamackem Well-Known Member

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    I think Hetcock was renamed He took. Utrinque Paratus and Ad unum Omnes :emoticon-0150-hands
     
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  7. malagamackem

    malagamackem Well-Known Member

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    One million percent agreed
     
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  8. SAFC4ever

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    He’s doing a worse job than Parkinson according to points per game, we haven’t played well in a game since at Portsmouth. He will never get a team promoted automatically as he goes on dreadful runs, it’s happened at all 4 clubs he’s been at now.
     
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  9. The Norton Cat

    The Norton Cat Well-Known Member

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    He's achieved more than any manager for at least the last 10 years. He's doing better than Parkinson in the only thing that matters- the league table.

    It seems to me that a lot of people just don't like him because he doesn't speak in clichés. Because he doesn't fit the football manager stereotype.
     
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  10. SAFC4ever

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    The league table is largely irrelevant though regarding when Parkinson left, points per game is the key barometer to use and Johnson has done worse.
     
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  11. Bank of England 2

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    I'm of the opinion that if we can get some sort of back three/four assembled and a full quota returned to the midfield area, we will be much harder to break down. We need to defend as a team again. As you say, the goals at the other end will take care of themselves.
     
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  12. Bank of England 2

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    Well you think we'll never get out of the second tier, so having people who you don't rate will suit your agenda perfectly.
     
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  13. master-simpson

    master-simpson Well-Known Member

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    FFS even when we win, the usual suspects are still out in force!!

    Bart
     
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  14. SAFC4ever

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    Would like to be proven wrong. We’ve been here before though, the promise of new owners and nothing ever changes, why will this be any different?
     
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  15. The Norton Cat

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    So its largely irrelevant that we've secured a place in the playoffs? We were 8th when Parkinson was sacked. We're now third. The only way that PPG is a barometer of Johnson's performances is if your scraping around looking for excuses to criticise him.
     
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  16. The Norton Cat

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    Why won't it be different?
     
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  17. SAFC4ever

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    Our PPG under Parkinson suggests we would have done under him.
     
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  18. SAFC4ever

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    This club constantly disappoint.
     
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  19. Makemstine Roger

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    :emoticon-0150-hands<applause><applause><applause>love it that much had ready for anything embroidered on my under keks:emoticon-0136-giggl
     
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  20. The Norton Cat

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    The other day there was something like 0.01 in it and today's win suggests that Johnson's PPG will have improved drastically.
     
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