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I’ve also mentioned the elephant in the room being wages and agents fees, and until they tackle it, it’ll continue to stay the same, any incremental cash will go straight into players and agents pockets.

Salary caps only work if the clubs want them to, that’s it really.

If they want to find ways round them, they will. Therein lies the issue. e.g. salary cap £100k per week. No problem, we pay him £100k per week. Oh but then there’s the £10m signing on fee, and the annual £5m loyalty payment that we pay his agent. Box ticked though.

 

Definitely a problem. But there are other rules that are applied across the board so it might not be beyond the realms of possibility.
I'd still like to round up all the agents and offer them to medical science though.

 

Cheers. I recall the rule now you've explained

 

Completely agree. Will be very difficult to implement. Plus, the owners would look to pocket the savings so then there would be another argument based on ticket prices

 

I'd say world. China, America, Sauda, etc have been known to pay massive salaries. Wouldn't take long for them to gather a few players and start to build better leagues that could attract TV deals and the prices begins.

 

What about ... **** the agents out for 10 years... keep their percentage split from sales over tgat time and put it in a pot to buy out percentage of clubs.

Saw one idea earlier.... a % of what either a ticket holder or subscription buyer pays becomes a virtual share...you can't sell it but means collectively there are fan shareholders to whatever the govt deems % of each club.. doesn't that mean they'd have to be notified of any decision made? And even have a vote?


Not my area and clearly would need legislation to empower it

 

Yep, that's pretty much what Boston Red Sox player Xander Bogaerts had to say on the subject:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.li...er-bogaerts-boston-liverpool-fsg-20431943.amp

 

Why would club owners agree to any of that though? Those ideas would need clubs to agree before being passed

 

Alternative to crippling taxation? As I said I may work in finance but its nuts and bolts stuff so what the **** would I know

 

I agree with the ideas in principle, they'd be good, but never get passed

 

Like pretty much all the ideas... too much self interest bought into current system.

Even the "small clubs" would take convincing that changes will stop the 40 mill transfer etc etc

 

There around 79 or so clubs who would have agreed with that back in the 90’s too when they foretold this day would come

 

I still maintain it would be unworkable in practice. Even if you got global agreement, clubs would still find ways around it. And ultimately, even if they didn't, the revenues would still be coming in so it would just mean more money for the owners.

At the end of the day, FFP is a similar concept and theoretically easier to implement.

 

From a European point of view is that not what you could do?

The Europa being the big (in terms of teams) comp... finalists get into the CL which is the ESL type thing. Only you make the founding 30 ESL automatic inaugural teams the top whatever works of the leagues. That is your two ESL leagues midweek..play off ...final etc... give the clubs in that **** loads of tv rights....but siphon enough off to make the EL worth a clubs time... prestige enough...Will get the 2 of 4 league guys that have been shifted to current CL..

We are back to both Europea Cups being prestigious...with quality teams... and giving the greedy ****ers some of what they want?

But like last few posts... UEFA won't risk their golden egg

 

No it is very similar not identical but it’s the next step in the evolution - they even touted making the Prem a closed shop but didn’t get away with it. This was always coming from the moment the Prem was created.
The clubs back then were greedy and they are now.
I have teetered on the verge of walking away from prem football I think I want my brain to accept now is the time. this won’t be the end
It will be back
The CL format does seem similar

 

All this more money for owners stuff is funny tbh. The dirty dozen racked up a total of £1.2BN in losses in their last collective set of accounts. These are supposedly the 12 of the ‘wealthiest’ clubs in World football apparently. Only in the barmy world of football ‘wealth’ appears to be measured in terms of turnover.

Call me old fashioned, but as a businessman myself, the old adage of turnover is vanity, profit is sanity, but cash in king. Always holds true, and the entire reason these owners set off on this idiotic SL track, is that despite getting themselves into a position in terms of turnover, that smaller clubs can only wonder at, they’ve literally pissed it all way (and much, much more) on transfer fees, wages and agents costs.

They’ve somehow managed to get themselves on a treadmill where success on the pitch brings increased turnover, but the cost of maintaining their success on the pitch is consistently outstripped by ever increasing costs, that they’re completely failing to control. From a business perspective it’s completely ****ing hopeless.

I also keep reading that these same loss making clubs are ever increasing in their net value, says who? Again this appears to be based on some Forbes calculation of a multiple of turnover. So they’re saying these clubs are supposedly worth £BN’s. Quick question, when has any football club ever changed hands at a price of in excess of £1BN? (I don’t know the answer btw)

 

I said in a response to Tobes, if it somehow got implemented, there would be a big fan vs owners argument about ticket prices shortly afterwards

 

It's just so blatantly obvious that this was waiting to happen. There's an old saying 'much wants more' - never truer words spoken.

 

Didn't Man Utd "cost" the Glazers more than £1b?

(didn't actually cost them anything since they stuck the debt on the club)