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Match Day Thread Sheffield Wednesday v Bristol City

Discussion in 'Bristol City' started by wizered, Apr 17, 2021.

  1. AshtonRed

    AshtonRed Well-Known Member

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    Looked like it hit the bar, Robins tv was right, wouldn’t have bounced the way it did if it came off his hand. However he shouldn’t have been raised his hand and gave the ref a decision to make.
     
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  2. Jiffie

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    Under the circumstances of the game, yes it was a good result.

    But yet more evidence of where our problems lie, full/wing backs nowhere close to being up to the job, a Barry Bannan type in midfield and a target man who can hold the ball up, stay on his feet, occasionally anticipate a pass, occasionally prove that he knows where the near post is and bust a gut more often.
     
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  3. realred1952

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    bit like BCRW putting a new fence in front garden and didn't see score till 81 mins then again about an hour after that!
    what happened to good old slo mo! watched the clip regarding the hand ball and must admit it does not look like he touched it. A lot of players do jump with their arm/ arms up? a different result could easily have been attained should we have not been down to 10 men for so long. Hopefully it will be rescinded.

    the lack of goals is a very worrying aspect of our team at the moment … to busy to check the stats since NP arrived but we don't seem to averaging 1 a game! played 9 games under 100% NP, cant really count Swansea as was a transitional game … only been in charge a couple of days! picked up 6 points from 27! [ not saying he is cra* as may be experimenting or just floating home to seasons end ]
    to be honest I think the last 12 months or so have been a real mess BCFC wise! HAD 3!? managerial changes DH … THE COACH'S .. NP. ……. Accepting LJ had had a poor season interrupted by the start of covid we took on DH along with 2 successful England coach's for whatever reason that didn't work [injuries the main factor, maybe the plan was destroyed on how we line up and the constant re gelling didn't help ] so we moved on to the messiah as some would have him!
    injuries have played a part in the pool to select from, but is also a time when with the safety of 52 / ? points in sight we played the younger members...

    in all of my 70 plus years following, supporting call it whatever I don't think my enthusiasm has been so low! Should they not appoint NP I shall not be fussed either way! I would probably even be happy with a half step back and go with the coach's!
     
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  4. Jiffie

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    The coaches don't and never wanted the job, that's why they called for the club to bring in somebody tout suite in their post match interview after the first game in charge.

    To score goals you need supply something sadly missing from our midfield for far too long, I would accept the point if we were missing chances, but we ain't.
     
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  5. wizered

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    bcfcredandwhite Well-Known Member

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    That's good news.
    I must admit that when I saw the replay in real-time I thought he tipped the ball over the bar. Don't blame the referee for getting that one wrong - and cue the old VAR debate!!!!
    Glad it's been rescinded and we can all move on.
    Wouldn't have been happy if we'd lost though - remember a few seasons back when Weimann had about 5 perfectly good goals disallowed for offside????
     
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  7. Redprintt

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    R&W - swings and roundabouts.
    Never as bad when Warnock went mad as Palace (I think) scored and not given at AG.
    GJ really wound it up that day.
     
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  8. bcfcredandwhite

    bcfcredandwhite Well-Known Member

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    I loved that!!!
    To this day I don't know why the referee disallowed that goal. He gave a free kick I think - so he must have seen a foul before the ball went into the net (???)
    I remember the Palace fans going mental on the old 606 saying that we 'cheated' - not sure how we could have cheated when NOBODY hassled the referee - all our players assumed that it had been a goal.
     
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  9. Redprintt

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    Our players didn't hassle the ref, but they knew and carried on.
    A while ago but didn't the ball hit the back stanchion, the ref I assume think it hit the post.
    Anyone out there remember ?
     
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  10. AshtonRed

    AshtonRed Well-Known Member

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    The ref got it wrong, it happens, whilst annoying the alternative (VAR) is even worse. Personally i prefer to have the decisions made by a human at real speed based on his/her judgement. It’s good the red card can be reviewed and adjusted after as well, although in this case I wish it hadn’t been overturned as now Angela is able to play tomorrow.
     
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  11. Jiffie

    Jiffie Well-Known Member

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    In 2 recent rugby matches involving Bristol Bears, 2 important decisions were confirmed by the honesty of individual players.

    I have to say I would like to see that honesty come back in football, I wonder sometimes how players can look at themselves in the mirror with the cheating that goes unpunished in the game, holding their faces when there has been little or no contact in that area, diving and now screaming like a baby as they theatrically go down, sorry but it's pathetic. It stinks of trying to cheat to try to get a fellow professional into trouble with a possible red card.

    Players today are shameless and that shows a total lack of self respect or respect of any kind, cheating is single biggest problem in football IMHO, I don't watch world cups anymore because it has become a 4 yearly cheat fest and the proposed super league will make the unbearable cheating even worse.
     
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  12. Angelicnumber16

    Angelicnumber16 Well-Known Member

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    I have a feeling it was Ipswich v Chelsea in the 70's ? Can't remember if a goal was given mistakenly or it was a goal that the ref thought had hit the side netting and stanchion
     
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  13. bcfcredandwhite

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    The ball did indeed hit the back stanchion and bounced back into ‘play’.
    Let’s assume that the ref thought that the ball hit the post - why then would he award a free kick? The ball would be still ‘alive’ had it hit the post.
    The referee’s decision on that day remains a mystery.
    This has reignited an old mystery!!!!
     
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    bcfcredandwhite Well-Known Member

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    That was more recently - Watford vs Reading in the Premiership I think???
    The bloody ball ended up outside the net - obviously not a goal. How anyone could think otherwise is bizarre.
     
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    Love it listening to Warnock moaning<laugh><laugh><laugh>
     
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  17. Supcon72

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    VAR was really brought in to check things like this, and unseen handballs (although that has also gotten a bit silly as well). Not to check if a toe-nail or armpit is offside. VAR isn't the issue, it's the rules and its application. At the end of the day, it will take the power away from the on-field ref, as it has done in cricket. Umpires rarely check for no-balls now, safe in the knowledge that if someone is given out it gets checked, and will see if it's a no-ball or not.
     
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  18. bcfcredandwhite

    bcfcredandwhite Well-Known Member

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    Warnock has a point though - and the officials never explained why a free kick was given !!!!
     
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  19. Supcon72

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    Haha - **ck Warnock!
     
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  20. Cliftonville

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    Rugby is a high scoring game. A decision amongst decisions has less impact v a decision in a very low scoring game. The psychology of the sports football v rugby are not true comparisons. This is not a justification but it is a clear driver. Football teams will cheat collectively due to the emphasis on winning in a low scoring sport and the benefit it will bring the group. As the rewards, pressure, stress increase the cheating logically increases.

    The proposed super league if a reality may not accelerate cheating. It may be less than competitive, less stressful, less pressured for teams guaranteed rewards for a league they cannot win or be relegated from.
     
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