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European Super League

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  1. Mantis

    Mantis Well-Known Member

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    Are you in favor? Yay or nay?

    For me, it will be the end of my endorsement of this club. Can't support sellouts. It will be the end of the game as we know it.
     
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  2. white_gunner

    white_gunner Well-Known Member

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    Not enough knowledge of what it will truly mean.

    I will say I think threatening the clubs with expulsion is not the right way to go about this.

    Wasnt the premier league formed in a similar manner when the top flight clubs voted to disband from the football league? The clubs are private entities who should be able to take part in whatever league they want imo.
     
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  3. Bullet tooth Tony

    Bullet tooth Tony Well-Known Member

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    But it's the automatic promotion and not the invitation that is the deciding factor.
     
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  4. gills4prem

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    Quote from arsenal


    We have joined 11 European clubs as founding members of a new midweek competition, the European Super League.

    There’s lots more to do to bring the competition to life and we will continue to update our supporters as things progress.

    More information can be found in a joint statement released by the Founding Clubs below. In the meantime, our focus is on finishing this season as strongly as possible.

    Leading European football clubs announce new Super League competition

    Twelve of Europe’s leading football clubs have today come together to announce they have agreed to establish a new mid-week competition, the Super League, governed by its Founding Clubs.

    AC Milan, Arsenal, Atletico Madrid, Chelsea, Barcelona, Inter Milan, Juventus, Liverpool, Manchester City, Manchester United, Real Madrid and Tottenham Hotspur have all joined as Founding Clubs. It is anticipated that a further three clubs will join ahead of the inaugural season, which is intended to commence as soon as practicable.

    Going forward, the Founding Clubs look forward to holding discussions with UEFA and FIFA to work together in partnership to deliver the best outcomes for the new League and for football as a whole.

    The formation of the Super League comes at a time when the global pandemic has accelerated the instability in the existing European football economic model. Further, for a number of years, the Founding Clubs have had the objective of improving the quality and intensity of existing European competitions throughout each season, and of creating a format for top clubs and players to compete on a regular basis.

    The pandemic has shown that a strategic vision and a sustainable commercial approach are required to enhance value and support for the benefit of the entire European football pyramid.

    In recent months extensive dialogue has taken place with football stakeholders regarding the future format of European competitions. The Founding Clubs believe the solutions proposed following these talks do not solve fundamental issues, including the need to provide higher- quality matches and additional financial resources for the overall football pyramid.

    Competition format

    • 20 participating clubs with 15 Founding Clubs and a qualifying mechanism for a further five teams to qualify annually based on achievements in the prior season.
    • Midweek fixtures with all participating clubs continuing to compete in their respective national leagues, preserving the traditional domestic match calendar which remains at the heart of the club game.
    • An August start with clubs participating in two groups of ten, playing home and away fixtures, with the top three in each group automatically qualifying for the quarter finals. Teams finishing fourth and fifth will then compete in a two-legged play-off for the remaining quarter-final positions. A two-leg knockout format will be used to reach the final at the end of May, which will be staged as a single fixture at a neutral venue.
    As soon as practicable after the start of the men’s competition, a corresponding women’s league will also be launched, helping to advance and develop the women’s game.

    The new annual tournament will provide significantly greater economic growth and support for European football via a long-term commitment to uncapped solidarity payments which will grow in line with league revenues.

    These solidarity payments will be substantially higher than those generated by the current European competition and are expected to be in excess of €10 billion during the course of the initial commitment period of the Clubs.

    In addition, the competition will be built on a sustainable financial foundation with all Founding Clubs signing up to a spending framework. In exchange for their commitment, Founding Clubs will receive an amount of €3.5 billion solely to support their infrastructure investment plans and to offset the impact of the COVID pandemic.

    Florentino Perez, Real Madrid president and the first chairman of the Super League said: “We will help football at every level and take it to its rightful place in the world. Football is the only global sport in the world with more than four billion fans and our responsibility as big clubs is to respond to their desires.”

    Backing the new European league, Andrea Agnelli, chairman of Juventus and vice-chairman of the Super League said: "“Our 12 Founder clubs represent billions of fans across the globe and 99 European trophies. We have come together at this critical moment, enabling European competition to be transformed, putting the game we love on a sustainable footing for the long-term future, substantially increasing solidarity, and giving fans and amateur players a regular flow of headline fixtures that will feed their passion for the game while providing them with engaging role models.”

    Joel Glazer, co-chairman of Manchester United and vice-chairman of the Super League said: "“By bringing together the world’s greatest clubs and players to play each other throughout the season, the Super League will open a new chapter for European football, ensuring world- class competition and facilities, and increased financial support for the wider football pyramid.”
     
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  5. Bullet tooth Tony

    Bullet tooth Tony Well-Known Member

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    Verbatim on the Chelsea site.
     
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  6. BrunelGunner

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    Just an increase of elitism, cronyism and commercialism of the sport. I’m ashamed we’ve chosen to be a part of this. KSE really have been a cancer on this club. I don’t know where we go from here.

    Also seeing rumours that founding members will get kicked out of European competitions. Can’t complain if we do.

    Football is in the gutter.
     
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  7. white_gunner

    white_gunner Well-Known Member

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    I can’t stop laughing that Arsenal and Spurs are somehow part of the “elite 12 European clubs”

    what a joke.
     
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  8. omogooner

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    I really don't get what the issue is (apart from greed)... If Clubs want to form a break away "super" League what is the issue? They must have done their research and felt it is commercially and economically viable. No?
     
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  9. gooner4ever

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    Didn’t the PL break away from the League ! So it’s hypocritical of them.
     
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  10. omogooner

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    To be fair, I really don't get what the issue is, and don't want to jump on the bandwagon... I have seen a lot pundits saying how bad and feigning outrage, just not seen give me a valid reason why it is bad!
     
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  11. cini65

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    How would they play both anyway? The structure of the SL suggests two leagues of 10 teams with H and A fixtures which means that's 18 guaranteed superleague mid-week fixtures before you even think about qualifying for the quarter-finals. No chance you could fit in the CL or EL as well. Any team joining the superleague has no intention of playing CL or EL and therefore the threat of being banned from it is a bit meh.

    The CL will just be PSG v Bayern every year ha
     
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  12. white_gunner

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    Ive thought about it because I honestly had the same initial reaction:

    The worst part is the no relegation; the 12 founding clubs will be involved year in year out no matter what. So sporting “merit” goes out the window. Not only does this mean essentially the same matches every year. (With almost certainly the same final), but they are trying to Americanize this by taking away any sort of consequence of finishing last.

    the entire idea sounds extremely boring to me.

    but still, these clubs are private entities and have the right to withdraw and be in whatever leagues they want to be in.
     
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  13. Somebodys pinched my sombrero

    Somebodys pinched my sombrero Well-Known Member

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    Would you be rather in the ESL and leave the PL? Sheer greed, the arrogance of some clubs appal me. Any club that joins this farce should be banned from the Premier league for 20 years. Turning your backs on English football, it’s ****ing shocking.
     
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  14. white_gunner

    white_gunner Well-Known Member

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    from what I gather, all the clubs are prepared for this, and they dont care. Such is the amount of money theyve been promised for joining this new league.
     
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  15. Somebodys pinched my sombrero

    Somebodys pinched my sombrero Well-Known Member

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    It’s disgraceful mate. What happens if you get relegated, would you expect to return to the PL? Any club turning their backs on English football should be banned from returning for ten years minimum imo.
    It’s your fans I feel sorry for, it’s a disgraceful idea.
     
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  16. PINKIE

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    Reminds me of that episode of Mrs Merton when she asked Debbie McGee 'What first attracted you to the Millionaire Paul Daniels ?'
     
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  17. omogooner

    omogooner Well-Known Member

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    They can do both though, no? Still no explanation as to why these clubs cannot join an "elite" league if they so desire! All I have seen so far is incendiary rhetoric and threats. Ban them from this and ban them from that..
     
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  18. gooner4ever

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    There was similar “outrage” when the PL broke away from the League, it was going to be the end of football etc.
    The 6 clubs still want to stay in the PL but not the CL/EL, so why does it have to be the end of the PL ? It would be the end of PL if they dump the 6 clubs out as PL tv rights package would plummet
     
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  19. colognehornet

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    I think that if they ever re apply to join English football it should only be in the Nationwide League. Preferably ban all players involved from playing in international matches for their countries. Oh and change their names as well - a club like Manchester City has no right to use the name of the City because they have nothing to do with Manchester - just been raping Europe of all its available talent (both players and managers) for years backed by Arab money. England badly needs a ruling as in Germany with it's fan power and 51% rule to prevent these vultures using historical English clubs as their playthings.
     
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  20. white_gunner

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    The problem that people dont seem to realize is I think all these teams are prepared to completely sever ties with their domestic leagues, if need be.

    Make no mistake, this is essentially creating a franchised league that brings in a ton of money with no risk of relegation etc. The owners all see this as the 'future' of owning a football business.

    Some of the quotes coming out from these board members talking are absolutely insane - They consider current fans of these teams 'legacy fans' and they are trying to gear more toward what they consider to be 'fans of the future'.
     
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