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Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by Robref62, Apr 18, 2021.

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What are your thoughts on the propsed new European Super League

  1. **** em. Kick them out now and ban the clubs from national, UEFA and FiFA comps.

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  2. Best thing to happen to football

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  3. **** em harder, Ban the players as well

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  4. Meh, never watch the overpaid primadonas anyway

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  1. E.T. Fairfax

    E.T. Fairfax Well-Known Member

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    Agreed......posted this on the Newcastle board.......

    To be honest, rather pleased we are hiding in the league one bunker at the minute, tin hat on under the table, whilst the bombs pound the surface. We might pop our heads up in a few years time and to assess the damage.
     
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  2. The Norton Cat

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    I wonder if it would be possible to strip those clubs of their previous titles retrospectively award them to the next best placed clubs that haven't joined this. Probably wouldn't work for cup competitions.
     
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  3. E.T. Fairfax

    E.T. Fairfax Well-Known Member

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    That'll be dropping a few Scottish teams in the clarts. Basically doing to them what the big 6 are doing to us?
     
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  4. BackO'TheNet

    BackO'TheNet Well-Known Member

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    * Kick this group of 6 out of the Prem.

    * No relegations throughout the other leagues for the next season.

    * Promote 6 teams from each lower Leagues/Divisions, to rebuild the correct complement of teams.

    .......and carry on as normal.
     
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  5. Nads

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    Fair comment of course, but the Scottish League desperately needs reform anyway, there’s a path forward there I’d imagine.
     
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    Agree.

     
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  7. rb92

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    The Premier League haven’t got the bollocks to punish them, it’s pathetic. The other 14 clubs should refuse to play the ****ers, starting with Leeds v Liverpool tonight. Make the greedy ****ers play amongst themselves for the last few weeks.

    I must say however that I find it hilarious how bent out of shape Sky are about this though.
     
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  8. samwise_new

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    i always had a feeling that the introduction of the premier league would be harmful to the game in the long run, also the constant tinkering with european competitions and it all comes down to greed...the increased revenue does nothing to help the actual fan, the person who spends the most on their team, it might help the tv fan for a while but in the end the greedy owners are the winners and maybe the tv companies.

    football survived and thrived for near 100 years in it's more 'original' form and now it is moving away from the fans to the tv viewer, how the fans of this proposed super league are meant to follow and support all around europe i have no idea, every single club has cried out about the lack of supporters over the past year so the owners are just after one thing and feck the future.

    i hope, if it does go ahead, that massive penalties are already being discussed and if/when it falls flat on it's arse (when viewing figures drop as people get sick of tappy lappy soft as ****e players) each club must start afresh or even under a new name with no television coverage allowed and see how fast those greedy owners feck off.
     
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  9. FellTop

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    This is as despicable as it gets. I didnt think football could sink much lower but it has. Clear as day they want an NFL model.

    I would love to see UEFA kick the clubs out of their competion with immediate effect. However, if we are relying on UEFA or FIFA I am not sure we should have too high expectations.

    The home leagues are where the power possibly lies. These clubs want out of the European competitions in favour of this, but to stay on their home competition. If the EPL for example refuse them entry then this will die as an idea in my opinion. Whether they have the bottle to do that I have my doubts. The EPL too is all about money and the next tv rights deal would not be as lucrative, in fact there would likely to compensation claims against the current one by media broadcasters.

    I worry that these clubs have played a good hand here and they will get their cake and eat it. It will make football even less competitive and the notion of a big six will become a self-fulfilling prophecy.
     
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  11. SAFCDRUM

    SAFCDRUM Well-Known Member

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    Say this goes through and the teams can't be thrown out of their respective leagues, here's what I would do...

    The teams are banned from cup competitions. The England manager will not pick any player from the breakaway clubs. Therefore they are not banned from internationals rather just not chosen.

    The premier league carries on and fixtures played but the points and league table just includes the remaining 14 teams. The games involving the breakaway clubs are virtually meaningless/training games and treated accordingly. The ongoing UEFA champions league gets the teams who finish in the top 3 if the calculated 14 team league table. Sorted.
     
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  12. sheepman

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    You’re right they want an NFL model. This is 100% driven by the American owners and finance I also fear that you’re right and they may get their cake and eat it. I haven’t seen anything to suggest the current authorities either at national or European level are strong enough or coordinated enough to fully stand up to this. I suspect this is an initial shot that may get watered down but the damage has been done. Hope they are happy on their meaningless Americanised Harlem Globetrotter pantomime. Thin end of the wedge to eventually having franchised businesses instead of proper teams just like the NFL About as authentic and real as the wrestling
     
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    Start the teams off in League Two next season. Let them understand the fabric of our game and what it means to the fans. These clubs dancing with the devil now.
     
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  14. Geecee

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    Am I the only one that is quite excited that this might happen?

    It will get rid of the money grabbing clubs with no interest in anything but making money for themselves at the expense of anyone else and will make our leagues more competitive.

    Kick them out now, scrap relegation this season and then you can just promote the top six in each league.

    This may be the best year to just not need the playoffs for a season as with little or no fans to attend then clubs who would be in the playoffs won't benefit as much financially.
     
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    Would players follow the money, or would they choose to let their contract expire/hand in a transfer request and then look to join a club who are not in the super league and continue playing for your country. Ooh, Cash vs country...
     
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    50/50
     
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  17. Sandy Camel

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    UEFA stating that any players playing in ESL would be banned from World Cup and Euro Championships. Gerrin.
     
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  18. Nads

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    NFL model is about right.

    It’s exactly that. Half the owners of these clubs have NFL franchises, a closed book where they make the rules and essentially print money.
     
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    I think it's the no relegation that the Yanks like, guaranteed income streams with no danger of losing out on them. I hope there is a way to expell them from the league tbh, **** it and go full nuclear if that's what they want. The domestic leagues would survive without those clubs and I daresay the vast majority of supporters of the clubs 'left behind' wouldn't give too much of a **** about them leaving.
     
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  20. Nads

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    Obviously been all we’ve talked about all day, being that I work for Sky, and we are all in agreement that those clubs would die, not the rest.

    New clubs would grow, competition would be more balanced. There’s the initial shock of it, but this isn’t the NFL.

    If you take a Forest fan, a Derby fan, a Portsmouth fan, whatever, they want to watch their team first.

    That will never change.
     
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