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Discussion in 'Queens Park Rangers' started by Sooperhoop, Feb 8, 2020.

  1. ELLERS

    ELLERS Well-Known Member

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    okay :emoticon-0148-yes:...<doh>
     
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  2. YorkshireHoopster

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    First written warning in the post.
     
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  3. QPR Oslo

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    The BBC have finally fessed up to 30 UK cases of unusual serious blood clotting with low blood platelet values in people who had recently taken the AstraZeneca vaccine, and rare antibody responses, resulting in 7 deaths. It's on their website today, and on BBC World news. Specialists have seen the rare antibody response in different patients, and now patients in different Countries who had taken the AZ vaccine, showing that the vaccine is most probably causing this.

    Still only a very low number of them reported in relation to total numbers vaccinated, but the delay in owning up to these very serious cases ( I read of 5 such cases and then deaths in the UK, reported in Norwegian media many times days and weeks ago now) and repeated bland assurances by some medical authorities and AstraZeneca that there is no proven connection between these deaths from rare causes and this vaccine, has long began to stink imo. Time to share data and establish if a particular segment of the popuation, such as women aged between 20 and 65, is more at risk or not where it's not already happening. I have read an accusation Germany is holding some data for a new edition of Lancet rather than sharing it immediately with other Countries Health authorities as recommended by the WHO in relation to Covid.
     
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  4. SW Ranger

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    This is the right answer.
    Welcome
     
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  5. Bwood_Ranger

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    **** way to introduce yourself. But also hi!
     
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  6. Stroller

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    PCR or lateral flow?
     
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  7. Bwood_Ranger

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    Do you fancy us to beat Forest?
     
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  8. Bwood_Ranger

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    It’s ok, my friend.
     
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  9. Tramore Ranger

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    Sounds like butthuber is back....
     
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  10. qprbeth

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    Enuma Elish seems to have disappeared..oh dear, what a shame
     
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  11. rangercol

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    Oslo says the BBC are now owning up to several blood clots deaths linked to the AZ vaccine.
     
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  12. qprbeth

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    Standard rate in the general population for the occcurance of blood clots is 1 in 10,000 per year. It is higher in young women on the contraceptive pill.
    Which is lower than the detected rate in the UK for blood clots in vaccinated people

    At various stages of the pandemic it was higher than 1:200 had coronovirus infection

    The coronovirus actually induces blood clots.

    I am still very very happy with the vaccine.
    It is staggeringly good and safe
     
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  13. Stroller

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    Thirty cases and seven deaths out of 18 million vaccinations. I did hear some expert or other on the radio today say that he expected a causal link to the vaccine to be established, though.
     
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  14. rangercol

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    If that happens, surely the AZ vaccine will be dead in the water?
     
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  15. Stroller

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    I don't see why it should. There's risk in everything, but this is statistically tiny. You'd never have a general anaesthetic if you paid too much attention to the statistical risks involved.
     
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    Less than 1 in a million chance.

    If you are that lucky/unlucky play the lottery every week
    You would win something every single week
     
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  17. rangercol

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    No, I agree, but if it's announced that the vaccine is actually causing fatal blood clots, huge numbers of people won't trust it imo.
    Isn't there a difference between a normal number of people getting blood clots statistically, who happen to have had a vaccine and research announcing an actual link to clots from being given the vaccine?
    An actual cause as opposed to statistical coincidence.
     
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  18. qprbeth

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    For comparison.
    Falls from ladders account for an average of 14 deaths per year (averaged over 6 years). According to HSE statistics, falls from ladders account for almost a third of all injuries and cost the UK economy £60 million every year, as well as being the number one cause of workplaces deaths.


    Shall we ban ladders
     
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  19. kiwiqpr

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    I thought you said you shouldn't be able to get blood clots and low platelets at the same time
     
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  20. Stroller

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    Yes, I think if an actual link to the vaccine was established it would almost certainly have an impact. People are easily scared, even if the risks are vanishingly small.
     
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