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Anzhi approach Capello

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  1. Jonas' Dance Teacher

    Jonas' Dance Teacher Active Member

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    Agreed. Pity Wilshere is injured as he would have Barry's place imo. There is a lot of youngsters with potential - just need somebody who will play them. Can't believe Sturridge and Agbonlahor got in the last squad, but Zamora did
     
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  2. Jonnyaiston

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    Doesn't matter what you would class them as. They play as strikers. Both a good few levels ahead of Rooney at "playing as a striker" as well, and pretty much everything.

    Would definitely put Aguero and Villa ahead of Rooney, saw a lot of them the past 3-4 years and they impress me more then Rooney. They both do it on the international stage as well, Villa more so.

    Terry, Gerrard, Lampard, Ferdinand are all past it, and will never get back to their best. They are getting worse and should be dropped to allow the youngsters(ones you mentioned) to get used to international football.

    I think you overrate those you mentioned personally, just like the media. I can see them being good internationals but never World Class.
     
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  3. Jonas' Dance Teacher

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    Rooney is world class. End of
     
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  4. Jonnyaiston

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    For Man United, not England.
     
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  5. The Armband

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    Very true, the sooner the better. I think Redknapp will overhaul the squad and we will see fresh starters not be cause Gerrard and Terry are injured!
     
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  6. Tel (they/them)

    Tel (they/them) Sucky’s Bailiff

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    The thing is with Capello, when he doesn't have everybody on his side he throws his toys around and stamps his feet. The majority of fans have their doubts about this man after watching his team ripped apart by Germany last summer and that is just unforgivable. It's plain to see that he doesn't have the full backing of the players either, having come out in public on numerous occasions saying he will pick the squad based on form, then reverting to type and opting for his stale line ups time after time.

    There should be no place in the side for the likes of Barry, Downing and Bent. It's not about individuals in football which is why we are witnessing maybe the greatest club football team of all time in Barcelona. Darren Bent should be either given a new strike partner that will knock balls to him all day long, or he should be shipped out of the team to facilitate a better fit partner for the more talented Wayne Rooney. Downing hasn't earned his place in the England set up on merit, he is there for reasons unbeknown to anybody who is aware of Adam Johnson, and the fact that the kid is several times more talented than his £20m (wtf?) England colleague. Gareth Barry has not earned his place either, he is 100% the first name on Capello's team sheet and I have no idea why, which is why I have zero faith in the Italian.

    Harry Redknapp though, is not the answer for me. The guy has not got the bottle at the business end of things. Having "masterminded", Spurs into a 4th place finish a couple of seasons back, he was heralded as some kind of superhero. His team were absolutely terrorised by Jose Mourinho's Real Madrid over two legs with Peter Crouch coming out scapegoat. The simple fact of the matter is, besides playing ability, Harry didn't have the minerals to mix it up when he needed to and he was tactically embarrassed by his Portuguese counterpart. How many times has he got the better of Fergie when Man Utd were there for the taking? Let's face it Harry Redknapp is being offered the job because there seems to be a lack of competition for the job in terms of English managers.

    The guy for me to take the reins is, if he would accept the job, Guus Hiddink. I don't care that he's foreign, the guy is a genius and I would have great faith in him to get the best out of the players and never lose his bottle.
     
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  7. Flying Dutchman

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    I think that England need a defence-minded manager like Pulis. We got to face it: we can't pass the ball around like Spain and Germany and if we can't close them down and pressurize them then we're gonna get bulldozed all the time. In fact I thought that Capello would make us play like the Italians: defensively solid ,sharp on the counter and winning matches even against the toughest of teams.
     
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  8. Marvo

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    The reason they hate him is that he very, very rarely does any of that for England. Often he'll be one of the worst players on the pitch, but recieve very little criticism.

    At one point he went over 3 years without scoring a competitive international goal. Two other times he's gone a year without doing it (give or take a few days), and it's not like he had tons of goals in friendlies to fall back on.

    For Manchester United, maybe he's world class. For England, he's a long way off it.
     
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  9. Geordie Gashead

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    The only way England will start doing is better is reshaping the whole game from the grassroots level onwards. Spain did it 15 or so years ago and, although it took some time, as you'd expect, it's proven to be worth it now.
     
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  10. The Secret Ingredient

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    this all day long
    the Germans proved in the world cup how to do it (whilst tearing our superstar world cup winners in waiting a new arse)
     
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  11. Flying Dutchman

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    I guess that the only reason we stick to our "Old Stars" is because of sponsors and better sale of shirts..
     
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  12. Marvo

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    However, in 2006 Italy took a fairly old squad and won the thing. Germany didn't do that with their youngsters.
     
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  13. Gutierrez's Right Boot

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    Dont get me started on Fabio "Foggy" Capello
     
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  14. mag la rue

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    The problem with england is the squad is selected on reputation and not recent performances. Likely down to sponsorships and potential shirt sales. The players get jack **** from playing compared to their earnings with their respective clubs and any fees they do get are often donated to charity. There is no respect between players and Capello; he's too regimented and they're too rich to care. When I was a kid the dream was to play so outstandingly for YOUR club you got to pull on an England shirt and play in the world cup wherever it was in the world. Now you turn up for whichever club pays the most and go spend it on cars and holidays, reducing the experience of world cup football because you can travel to these places anyway without the hassle of training and performing.
     
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    Now, if you play well for England you might get that dream move to 'insert whoever is currently paying most'. Agreed there mlr, the balance between club and country is screwed up thanks to money, players would care a lot more if there was a £5kpw club cap or something.
     
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  16. Jonas' Dance Teacher

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    The reason why I said Harry Redknapp for the job is because I believe it should be an Englishman in charge. I don't expect everybody else to believe that aswell, but its all about opinions. Harry is the best English manager available - in fact, if Harry didn't accept the job I probably would prefer a foreigner like Wenger or Hiddink as the next best English manager is probably Fat Sam and we don't want him do we lol
     
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  17. Marvo

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    To be honest, I wouldn't mind seeing Hoddle getting another go, as someone (can't remember who) recently suggested in the press.
     
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    Lets hope the FA dont go after Pardew <yikes>
     
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  19. TheBenArfaShow

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    If you think Rooney is anywhere near David Villa, you are an utter fool.
     
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  20. Haha just been listening Real Radio, apparently Ahnzi want Cappello, Lampard, Gerrard and Van Persie, and they're willing to pay them all over 250k a week rofl.
     
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