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Qatar, Riyadh and the dark side of Sport

Discussion in 'Charlton' started by lardiman, Mar 25, 2021.

  1. The Penguin

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    Alternative facts, isn't that what you now call lies? Countries like China, Russia and now Myanmar are quite happy to reel off a string of lies, knowing that no-one believes them. At least America isn't in that company any more.
     
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  2. Ken Shabby

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    And they got beaten by the Northern bit!! Imagine if they had brought their mates from Eastern Macedonia too!!
     
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  3. lardiman

    lardiman The truth is out there
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    Is modern Macedonia in the same geographical location as ancient Macedonia - birthplace of Alexander the Great, most gifted and successful military commander in history?
     
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  4. Miketyson2007Junior

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    That's the controversy which prompted the name change from Macedonia to North Macedonia.

    Greeks will say no, Macedonians will say yes.
     
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  5. Ken Shabby

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    Reckon Ghengis Khan might have something to say about that. But Mongolia went down 14-0 to Japan this week, so military might doesn't always result in a footballing world power a few centuries later.
     
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  6. lardiman

    lardiman The truth is out there
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    Any female fans thinking of travelling to Qatar for the World Cup Finals next year?
    Here's an example of how you might be treated...

    www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-australia-59288177

    They're putting out the glossy adverts to lure in the punters,
    But I would advise you to think twice about going to Qatar if you're
    • a woman
    • Jewish
    • LGBT+
    And especially if you're a combination of those things.
     
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  7. The Penguin

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    Unless you're also a corrupt FIFA official as well, then they love you.
     
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  10. lardiman

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    A fifteen year old Russian figure skater who failed a drugs test 'wins' at the Sportswashing Winter Olympics.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/winter-olympics/60329120

    Can Russia & China drag the reputation of elite sport any lower?
    Not lower than FIFA and Qatar I shouldn't think.

    Cynicism, manipulation, drug abuse, exploitation of minors, extreme politics and nationalism.
    Corruption of the principles of sport and fair play on a scale never before seen.

    We are constantly lectured on tolerance and equality, while the BBC and our sports institutions get into bed with dictatorships, dopers, human rights abusers and murderers.
     
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    I doubt the skater knew she was being given the drug. State sponsored doping is ingrained in the Russian system.
     
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  12. Butterfield

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    I recommend the Netflix documentary called Bad Sport

    There’s an episode about the 2002 Winter Olympics, Figure Skating pairs.

    Absurdly compelling
     
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    So, now as well as the Sportswashing Winter Olympics it's the Kids Doping Games.
    And it was disrupted by snow <laugh>

    The presenters on the BBC breakfast show this morning seemed to like the idea that viewing figures would be up for the figure skating because the Russian girl is now allowed to compete.
    Rather like the people who used to flock to Victorian circus freak shows.
     
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  15. lardiman

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    Two questions spring to mind...

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/winter-olympics/60417450

    1. Why did Kamila's coach even care that she didn't get a medal? Russia won the competition anyway.
    2. Why are people surprised that she rounded on the girl rather than give her a big hug?

    Valieva wasn't at the Olympics for fun, or to have a good time.
    Russians don't go in for snowflake stuff. They're as hard as nails.

    It's a bit late for the IOC to grow a conscience. Self-serving invertebrates.
     
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    Seems like a throwback to the old Soviet block hothousing of young athletes, many of whom suffered horribly in later life.<steam>
     
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    That's exactly what it is.
    Systematic abuse - emotional, physical and even chemical.
    We have entered a new Cold War.
     
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  18. The Penguin

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    Putin's been at it for years, using massive troll factories to unsettle and divide The West. Support for B****t and for the election of Trump are the 2 most obvious examples, but when I see people piling in to support far-right theories inTwitter I ha'e ma suspicions.
     
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    So, no action by the IPC regarding the Paralympics...

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/disability-sport/60586037

    The only change is that Belarussian athletes will have to compete as 'neutral' like Russian athletes.
    No anthems and no flags - except ones they blag from spectators.
    Not good enough in my view, but completely unsurprising.
    I urge GB athletes to refuse to compete against Russians & Belarussians.

    I'm all for keeping politics out of sport.
    But a full fledged invasion and threats to use nuclear weapons is not politics.
    It is International Criminality on a massive scale.
    But hey ho. The IPC doesn't care obviously. The inconvenience of actually taking a stand is far too onerous.
     
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    I agree Lardy and I know it must be scary in Russia but I think the citizens should turn on him and get shot of him - there will be dancing on the streets if he gets what he deserves <cheers>
     
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