We could have probably saved a few people if the Prime Minister wasn’t busy sorting his divorce out at the start of last year or making speeches about the “unnecessary” economic damage that would be done by trying to keep people alive or he didn’t have to be seen to be a Christmas hero or schools weren’t opened for a day for literally no reason at all during a year of gaslighting the swathes of Tory cucks that we were in any way following the science.
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I agree, I have not mentioned who can ‘p### the furthest’ I would add though if the shoe had been on the other foot or we were relying on the EU program I’m sure a few voices on here would be blaming Boris. I know it irks some that we are now getting this right but tough. Plenty have moaned about our handling and when we do something well, we are told that we are somehow gloating? Politics comes into this so much. For me, I am glad my leader hasn’t threatened people with export bans or gave out misinformation regarding a life saving drug. If others think that is okay then that’s them.
Quite a few leaders of countries havent done very well during the pandemic. Ours must be up near the top of the league I reckon. Macron is a fool, Trump is a tit and Johnson is an idiot but to not see past ones own failings to label another's is quite hypocritical just as it would be to not congratulate on ones positive achievements.
I agree Bob, it’s just a shame that some people can’t accept positive achievements due to their hatred of a party or person? I would also add that Macrons actions will affect us. So there is nothing wrong in pointing out his idiotic comments like many have with our own government on this thread. Just take a look back on here before the vaccine roll out. It tells me enough.
Just about every regular poster on this thread has at some point praised the vaccine rollout, usually after one of your multiple moans about the lack of praise for the vaccine rollout. Perhaps some people just can’t buy in to the jingoism that others insist on attaching to it.
Without a doubt the vaccine roll out has been superb. I agree that there is nothing wrong with pointing out Macrons idiotic behaviour. We need the whole world to be on board for it to be successful. I'm not sure where we stand in the death total table at the moment but some of our decisions have been costly, none so much than the massive lie of the 'protective ring' around care homes, of which my sister in law has emails from work regarding covid patient being sent back to the community/care homes even after they claimed they had sorted it! You can put some of the death toll down to mistakes, you can put a lot down to incompetence. Some can just put it down to disliking the Tories. To myself, it's the government whom just happen to be Tory. Every death is a sad one, the list of 'mistakes' is quite exhausting and at some point people have confused 'mistakes' with just pure incompetence. I really wish/wished that the Tory party would get rid of Johnson and replace him with someone with a scrap of common sense.
Boris is a vote winner so that will never happen. If he did go, who would replace him... Raab/Gove? The same voices would still moan. As for the whole World helping out comment? You only have to look at recent news to see it will be look after yourself first mentality. Vaccines not going to Canada and Australia, the threat of an export ban tells me enough. I agree re care homes. In hindsight I am sure they would have done things differently. Many countries around the World are saying that their politicians have made mistakes. I guess we all have at some point. Finally on deaths... we do have high figures but there are many factors to this. This thing is not over yet and as our figures are dropping I have noticed many countries increasing. Within a year I would imagine a few countries in Europe having roughly the same amounts for size/population. Like everyone, I just want to get on with life.
I said we need the whole world to be onboard for the vaccine to be successful, as in the sooner everyone is vaccinated, the sooner I can go on my bloody hols! Did you get any side effects from the vaccine Ellers?
As I said before (and will repeat it, cause I think it is clever and funny) I have 99 problems with this government, but the vaccine roll-out ain't one Okay I am easily amused
Other than talking more bollox? So I had my jab on Friday and was tired that day. A few weird tingles and a bit of a heavy head. Not too much because I took paracetamol. Yesterday was also a bit weird as I had tiredness around my eyes (a bit like when you have had a heavy day reading with glasses). Although I have had problems with my glasses of late, so that could have contributed. My arm was a bit tender but nothing to worry about. I think I am looking for anything and everything at the moment. TBH Bob I don't like injections and would rather have not had this but I have seen enough coverage of people in hospital and don't want that either. Like you I want to go to France as the house has been vacant for over a year however I understand the restrictions and may have to wait until December.
Returning NZers reportedly being offered fake negative COVID-19 test certificates Lana Andelane 2 hrs ago please log in to view this image © Getty Images Stock image of a negative test for COVID-19 coronavirus, formerly known as 2019-nCoV. Citizens and permanent residents intending to return to New Zealand are reportedly able to obtain fake certificates claiming they have tested negative for COVID-19 to ensure they can enter the country. In accordance with the Government's pre-departure testing rule, prospective returnees are required to present a report certifying they have tested negative for the virus within the 72 hours prior to their flight. The reports of fake certificates are exacerbating concerns regarding the number of returnees who are testing positive for COVID-19 on arrival - day zero - or the first day of their stay in managed isolation facilities, despite being required to present evidence of a negative test result before departure. University of Auckland microbiologist Dr Siouxsie Wiles said she has been made aware of a returning New Zealander who was offered a fake negative test certificate for an unknown fee, as reported by the New Zealand Herald. The pre-departure testing measure came into effect in late January to "further protect New Zealand from COVID-19", COVID-19 Response Minister Chris Hipkins said at the time. On January 20, the Ministry of Health confirmed it would accept results from PCR tests, tests using loop-mediated amplification (LAMP) technology, or antigen tests, also known as viral antigen tests. All tests must be processed by a laboratory recognised in the country of origin as authorised or accredited to conduct tests. At-home tests must also be processed by an authorised laboratory. The laboratory will then issue the recipient a dated report containing the traveller's name, date of birth and/or passport number, the name of the testing lab, the type of test, the date and time the test was conducted and the result of the test. Initially, only those returning from the United States and the United Kingdown were required to provide evidence of a negative test. However, that was expanded shortly after the first announcement to encompass all returnees worldwide - with limited exemptions. That month the Government also expanded the testing regime at managed isolation facilities, with the majority of returnees now required to undertake a test for COVID-19 on arrival or day one of their stay. Data supplied by the Ministry of Health demonstrates a significant number of new arrivals are returning a positive result due to testing on day 0/1. Dr Wiles said the data indicates it was "a good idea" to introduce day 0/1 testing, but also suggests there are flaws in the pre-departure testing regime. She said the negative result simply shows the individual had not developed the virus at the time of their test, but doesn't account for incubation or contracting the virus in the days between the test and their arrival in New Zealand. Wiles says she has "no doubt" there is a demand for fake negative test certificates. "Someone got in touch with me to tell me a relative of theirs had been offered one in France but declined," she said, as reported by the NZ Herald. On Friday, Director-General of Health Dr Ashley Bloomfield told reporters the Government was investigating the efficacy of the pre-departure test requirement. He said "very few" people have returned to New Zealand without evidence of a negative result, but acknowledged the reliability of testing can vary globally - hence the introduction of routine testing on day 0/1. For example, data indicates pre-departure testing in India is likely not be up to scratch, with roughly 40 people testing positive for COVID-19 on day 0/1 in New Zealand after travelling from the South Asian nation. "We do take, on face value, the valid certification of the fact that someone's had a pre-departure test, which does require quite specific information," Dr Bloomfield said on Friday. Proposals from experts include introducing a mandatory period of isolation prior to departure for returning New Zealanders, or prospective returnees signing a declaration certifying they have self-isolated for a week before travelling and have regularly worn a mask. In January, epidemiologist Michael Baker argued pre-departure testing is not enough to keep COVID-19 out of the community. A single pre-departure test 72 hours before travel is not entirely effective, he said, as people could be incubating an infection or could contract COVID-19 shortly afterwards. "One of the options is making people self-quarantine at a hotel at the airport and have an additional rapid test before they get on the flight," he suggested to Morning Report. The Ministry of Health and the Ministry of Business, Innovation and Employment have been contacted for comment.
Here in sunny Queensland, Australia, we’ve gone into mini lockdown in BrisVegas after some dickwank was told to isolate but decided instead, to throw a party, ( probably a Chelsea supporter ) ... anyway, we now have little blowout so Greater Brisbane is now in lockdown. Here on the Gold Coast, we’ve been ask to mask up. Of course, nothing like you good people have had to endure, in fact, just a precaution so our Premier says.
On my walk in the park today lots of people having picnics bringing their fold up chairs and blankets. Nice sunshine helped but it was surprising how many people were out and many in large groups. I bet tomorrow with temps in the 70s the beaches will be rammed showing just why the lockdowns will probably be back later in the year. People just can't help themselves, let's hope the vaccines really make the difference...
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I have just seen the fella on Sky go through the data and it looks really good. No Covid deaths in London on Sunday, the first time in 6 moths. No major jump in school kids going back , in fact 11-24yr olds has fallen. The hospital cases and infections in the 65+ has also fallen.
Although we have to factor in the amount vaccinated to figures, so they should be falling, I’m surprised with children going back to school there wasn’t a bigger rise, I couldn’t be happier about being wrong on that one.
Same here, I expected a rise but happy as Larry that it's so far so good. In my local town, 2 years from one primary school have had to isolate and the local paper factory had 30 cases, shutting production. I have to add that these cases were using the lateral flow test which is well known to be dodgy.
Today, my son and l worked with mask on. We had to carry plasterboard and sheet it all day. I feel like l've worked a 20 hour day. I'm sure an office person decided wearing a mask would be a good thing but they obviously haven't worked as a tradie before. Tomorrow, l'm bringing an oxygen bottle. Also, if your panting thru lack of fresh air, your glasses fog up straight away, so if you don't collapse from lack of air, you'll not be able to see where your going and hit a blooody wall instead! Tomorrow, l'm going to stand at 1.500mm from any work, so there!
