Off Topic St Patrick's Day

Bit of a dramatic statement Quill. It’s like saying the most of Europe should despise Germany. I think most adults don’t blame others countries History as a reason to hate modern generations. The youth of both sides of Ireland are a perfect example.

 

Exactly what I thought. I don’t hate Germans or Argentinians and I’m ex Army, why would I?

If you hate the English for events that took place hundreds of years ago you’re not wired up right.

Move the **** on.

 

It is a bit dramatic, but I'm still not surprised. I never said they 'should' despise us, either.

From experience, I still see a lot of adults out there who despise particular nations though. I don't despise any nation, I might dislike some nations, but I wouldn't claim to know enough about them to have a reason to despise.

At least younger people have a lot more tolerance compared to previous generations. Though that is usually turned into a negative for some reason by a lot of people out there.

 

Any proof that younger people have more tolerance compared to previous generations? Everywhere around the world?

 

You could choose more than one option for that question. I put English and British.

 

Likewise.

 

I was put out that Yorkshire wasn't an option.

 

I would suggest that a couple of generations not having experienced a world war has a hell of a lot to do with it in most countries. In addition to an improvement in living standards/conditions in most of the developed world. There are still pockets of deprived areas where tribal memories cause friction, but communication & co-operation will help those nations eventually. Parents have a lot to do with ameliorating their kids tolerance. I see it happening.

 

Always thought it odd that some do dislike other countries for no good reason. There again I know of local big team “supporters “ who passionately dislike the actual city of their “rivals”. Odd world.

 

My parents, probably like yours, spent 5 years in the forces in the war. My dad's choice for his second foreign holiday in 1963 was to Germany. Only 18 years after the war, a relatively small period of time. I enjoyed it. These events were in his youth but he had no animosity to the Germans. The following year we went to Holland and Belgium, countries which suffered under German occupation but there was no signs of ill feeling towards the German visitors.Yet Quill thinks it is quite understandable that other countries despise us for things that happened centuries ago. Strange.

 

Always thought it strange that some people in this country, admittedly they tend to be younger, celebrate the patron Saint of another country but not their own. Do the French celebrate Italy's patron saint, the Portuguese the Spanish one? Or is it only these country which has self-loathing types who despise their own culture whilst thinking the culture and traditions of other countries are wonderful.

 

So did I

(I don’t mean I filled out your census form, I mean I sad I was English too)

Seemed the most obvious answer to me

 

I wasn’t
I don’t really have any affinity for Yorkshire to be honest.
Hull...well not all of it obviously

 

And to think some people say Hull folk are parochial...

 

How 'sad' were you Dennis?

 

Sad I missed that typo!!!

 

Same in my case. Father, radio operator on merchant ships, torpedoed & sunk in the Indian Ocean, blasted in the North Atlantic convoy runs. He never talked about the war other than to say both sides had to do their duty because of those at the top seeking power. In fact he was incredibly grateful to the commander of the U-boat who ordered his men not to shoot at the crew who had managed to get into the lifeboats.
Mother spent 4 years at Bletchley Park - again never talked about the war or suggested she had anything other than respect for people from other nations. (A brief aside - she met Churchill wandering around the gardens one day at Bletchley park & he started chatting to her. He asked her what she was working on. She responded "Sorry sir, I can't tell you, it's top secret!".

I shouldn't speak for Quill , but I don't believe Quill is suggesting that at all. I believe he is alluding to internal "British" resentment between a small percentage of older generations having been aware of ancient "royalty" led atrocities against the countries that eventually became part of Great Britain, and vise versa. He most definitely said that there is a lot more acceptance/tolerance now in the most recent generations. A good sign indeed. But hardly surprising older generations had less trust in their leaders. Only minorities as Quill said, but they manage to get a lot of press.

 

The ones from some of the wrong parts of Hull probably are...

 

That is very much what I was alluding too, tc.

Not that it would've stopped Castro trying to get a dig in at the younger generations mind you, us absolute woke snowflakes we are.

 

On many occasions as I motorbiked around Europe (1980's and 90's) i realised that there appeared to be no animosity among western nations despite what happened during the wars.
In contrast travelling around Eastern Europe (late 1990's and 2000's) there is real hate for other countries. The balkans, the baltics, former ussr there is to this day real hate and violence. Is that due to the youngsters or the nationality?