1. Log in now to remove adverts - no adverts at all to registered members!

The Womens' Game

Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by Draig, Mar 17, 2021.

  1. E.T. Fairfax

    E.T. Fairfax Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 4, 2012
    Messages:
    8,151
    Likes Received:
    9,314
    Absurd. They train less (though no doubt train hard), they play fewer matches, they generate less interest, they generate less income. How are they entitled to equal pay?
    Same with womens tennis. Getting equal prize money at Wimbledon? They generate slightly less interest than the mens, less income for sponsors, they play fewer sets ffs, thats less entertainment!
     
    #21
  2. Ozzymac

    Ozzymac Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 25, 2019
    Messages:
    4,699
    Likes Received:
    10,965
    Australian womens team got beaten by Newcastle Jets U/15 side 7-0
     
    #22
  3. rb92

    rb92 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 31, 2020
    Messages:
    833
    Likes Received:
    1,761
    Wasn’t it the American international women’s team? I’m sure they took a pasting off some under 16s or something.
     
    #23
    rowley likes this.
  4. Guy Incognito

    Guy Incognito Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 27, 2020
    Messages:
    649
    Likes Received:
    1,993
    The point is that men and women should expect equal pay for doing the same job FOR EQUAL VALUE. Mens football brings in much more revenue through attendances, TV audiences, sponsorship, advertising etc than womens football, therefore mens football has a higher value than women's, which is reflected in the pay difference. It's not putting women's down, but it's a fact of life. If it was the other way round I'd personally have no problem if womens football paid more than mens, but it isn't and they aren't.

    Personally I don't mind womens football, I've watched the England team on TV and been to a few SAFC ladies games, but a choice between a woman's or a man's game to me is a no brainer. To me this is just political correctness making an issue where really there isn't one and more likely to do damage to women's football than benefit it.
     
    #24
  5. Gordon Armstrong

    Gordon Armstrong Just another S.A.F.C. fan
    Forum Moderator

    Joined:
    Jan 26, 2011
    Messages:
    22,187
    Likes Received:
    88,598
    I think that it's quite simply about 'supply and demand' as in most businesses. If the demand's there the product will be appropriately supplied.

    Proper football has a massive demand and we're willing to pay for it, which leads to massive revenue from advertising, and footballers being paid stupid amounts of money for their services :emoticon-0148-yes:

    The demand certainly isn't, and never will be, there for women's football, therefore decent revenue from advertising never will be either, which makes the demands for equal pay (or even close) absolutely nonsensical.
     
    #25
    Draig and Guy Incognito like this.
  6. Sunderpitt

    Sunderpitt Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 27, 2011
    Messages:
    10,976
    Likes Received:
    14,463
    Not against women's sport as such, back in the day I helped coach a women's rugby team.

    But unless England women's football reached a world cup or European final I do not watch it.

    At my grandkids primary school the boys and girls play football together. So the upcoming generations may well have a different viewpoint than a 68 year old curmudgeon.

    I quite like women's tennis. Mind at the grand slams should play best of 5.
     
    #26
    Guy Incognito likes this.
  7. Nig

    Nig Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 24, 2019
    Messages:
    6,351
    Likes Received:
    15,201

    Is there any chance of expansion of the company, or would the pressure be to much as they've found their level ?
     
    #27
  8. Bizarreknives

    Bizarreknives Well-Known Member
    Forum Moderator

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2011
    Messages:
    3,582
    Likes Received:
    1,388
    They could do more to justify an equal wage, like wash and iron the kits after the games.

    Someone had to say it.
     
    #28
    farnboromackem, rowley and Sunderpitt like this.
  9. Draig

    Draig Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 27, 2019
    Messages:
    2,275
    Likes Received:
    5,412
    I'm glad that I'm not alone in thinking that football pay (men and women) should only ever be linked to advertising, TV and gate money.

    I think the main premise is that, like a can of Coca Cola and a can of Aldi Cola, men's football and women's football are not the same products. To my mind, the calls for smaller goals and a smaller pitch in the women's game only serve to underline this.

    The problem is, many in the Women's game, the BBC (management, not presenters) and the feminist movement see this purely as a gender equality issue rather than a product supply and demand issue.

    I don't deny that in 10 to 20 years then the standard of women's football might have evolved significantly, maybe to a point that there is little difference between the quality of football played. Yet still there could be pay differences based on the demand for the product.

    The next thing will we will see more of is feminist MPs demanding equal air time on TV. I could well see that happening on the BBC - just as a license fee political protection measure.
     
    #29
    rowley and Guy Incognito like this.

Share This Page