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  1. Red top reader

    Red top reader Well-Known Member

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    The greatest 3 rounds I’ve ever seen during a time of real boxers that dodged **** all and fought anyone. I remember clearly the minter fight, could not believe what I was seeing, absolutely destroyed him but the Tomas the hitman fight will live in my memory forever. RIP... your job is done

    Marvelous Marvin Hagler, middleweight boxing great, dies at 66

    Marvelous Marvin Hagler, the middleweight boxing great whose title reign and career ended with a split-decision loss to \"Sugar\" Ray Leonard in 1987, died Saturday. He was 66.

    MARVELOUS MARVIN HAGLER stopped Thomas Hearns in a fight that lasted less than eight minutes yet was so epic that it still lives in boxing lore.

    Two years later, Hagler was so disgusted after losing a decision to Sugar Ray Leonard -- stolen, he claimed, by the judges -- that he never fought again.

    One of the great middleweights in boxing history, Hagler died Saturday at the age of 66. His wife, Kay, announced his death on the Facebook page for Hagler's fans.

    "I am sorry to make a very sad announcement,'' she wrote. "Today unfortunately my beloved husband Marvelous Marvin passed away unexpectedly at his home here in New Hampshire. Our family requests that you respect our privacy during this difficult time.''

    Hagler fought on boxing's biggest stages against its biggest names, as he, Leonard, Hearns and Roberto Duran dominated the middleweight classes during a golden time for boxing in the 1980s. Quiet with a brooding public persona, Hagler fought 67 times over 14 years as a pro out of Brockton, Massachusetts, finishing 62-3-2 with 52 knockouts.

    "If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove,'' Hagler once said. "That's all I am. I live it.''

    Hagler was unmistakable in the ring, fighting out of a southpaw stance with his bald head glistening in the lights. He was relentless and he was vicious, stopping opponent after opponent during an eight-year run that began with a disputed draw against Vito Antuofermo in 1979 that he later avenged.

    Hagler fought with a proverbial chip on his shoulder, convinced that boxing fans and promoters alike didn't give him his proper due. He was so upset that he wasn't introduced before a 1982 fight by his nickname of Marvelous that he went to court to legally change his name.

    "He was certainly one of the greatest middleweights ever but one of the greatest people that I've ever been around and promoted,'' promoter Bob Arum said. "He was a real man, loyal and just fantastic person.''

    Any doubts Hagler wasn't indeed Marvelous were erased on a spring night in 1985. He and Hearns met in one of the era's big middleweight clashes outdoors at Caesars Palace in Las Vegas, and when the opening bell rang, they traded punches for three minutes in an opening round many consider the best in boxing history.

    Hagler would go on to stop Hearns in the third round, crumpling him to the canvas with a barrage of punches even as blood poured out of a large gash on his forehead that nearly caused the referee to stop the fight earlier in the round.

    "When they stopped the fight to look at the cut, I realized they might be playing games and I wasn't going to let them take the title away," Hagler said later. "It was a scary feeling. I thought, 'Why are they stopping this fight?' I didn't realize I was bleeding. It wasn't in my eyes. Then I knew I had to destroy this guy.''

    Arum said Hagler simply willed himself to victory over Hearns, whose big right hand was feared in the division but couldn't keep Hagler at bay.

    "That was an unbelievable fight,'' Arum said. "Probably the greatest fight ever.''

    Hearns said Saturday he was thinking about Hagler and their historic fight. Hagler wore a baseball cap with the word "War'' while promoting it on a 23-city tour with Hearns that Arum said made the fighters despise each other before they even entered the ring.

    "I can't take anything away from him,'' Hearns told The Associated Press. "His awkwardness messed me up, but I can't take anything away from him. He fought his heart out, and we put on a great show for all time.''

    Hagler would fight only two more times, stopping John Mugabi a year later and then meeting Leonard, who was coming off a three-year layoff from a detached retina, in his final fight in 1987. Hagler was favored going into the fight, and many thought he would destroy Leonard -- but Leonard had other plans.

    While Hagler pursued him around the ring, Leonard fought backing up, flicking out his left jab and throwing combinations that didn't hurt Hagler but won him points on the ringside scorecards. Still, when the bell rang at the end of the 12th round, many thought Hagler had pulled out the fight -- only to lose a controversial split decision.

    Hagler, who was paid $19 million, left the ring in disgust and never fought again. He moved to Italy to act and never really looked back.

    "I feel fortunate to get out of the ring with my faculties and my health,'' he said a year later.

    Hagler took the long route to greatness, fighting mostly in the Boston area before finally getting his chance at the 160-pound title in 1979 against Antuofermo as a co-main event, with Leonard fighting Wilfred Benitez on the same card. Hagler bloodied Antuofermo and seemed to win the fight, but when the scorecards were tallied, he was denied the belt with a draw.

    Hagler would travel to London the next year to stop Alan Minter to win the title, and he held it for the next seven years before his disputed loss to Leonard.

    Arum remembered being at a black-tie event honoring top fighters a year later that was attended by Hagler and Leonard, among others. He said Leonard came up to him and pointed to Hagler across the room and suggested he go talk to him about a rematch that would have earned both fighters unbelievable purses.

    "I went over to Marvin and said Ray is talking about a rematch,'' Arum said. "He glared at me as only Marvin could and said, 'Tell Ray to get a life.'''

    Hagler was born in Newark, New Jersey, and moved with his family to Brockton in the late 1960s. He was discovered as an amateur by the Petronelli brothers, Goody and Pat, who ran a gym in Brockton and would go on to train Hagler for his entire pro career.

    Hagler was inducted into the International Boxing Hall of Fame and World Boxing Hall of Fame in 1983.

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    DMD Eh? Forum Moderator

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    For those not aware, the comments on the Hearn fight can be better appreciated if you look at Hearn's career record, which was itself truly incredible.

    RIP Marvellous, thanks for the privilege of the memories.
     
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    So sad to learn of his passing. He was the reason l got into boxing. The fight with Hearns is one of the best ever. I can’t do justice to him with my limited intelligence so all I can say is R.I.P. to a true legend and a true man. Gutted
     
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    THE EXCLUSIVE 10% Well-Known Member

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    And well done red top and admins for giving the man the respect he deserves
     
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    Red top reader Well-Known Member

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    During those years we we’re all spoiled rotten with the wonderful fighters of the day, anyone would fight anyone unlike these days where it all seems to be about the money and fame. My nephew is a big boxing fan and when I told him about those years and fights he looked them up. His first words were “ god I wish I was born then “
    Absolutely bang on DMD, Thomas the Hitman Hearns was another stunning fighter of his generation, such a concussive puncher... they were literally out cold before they hit the canvas..
     
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    Red top reader Well-Known Member

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    Perfectly put sir....
     
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    DMD Eh? Forum Moderator

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    I sent clips of fights of that era to a younger family member that was gushing about the 'greats' of today. They conceded and now watch them regularly.
     
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    In respect to a legend

     
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    Amazing fighter, and great strength of character to stop when he did without being tempted back.

    RIP
     
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    All true, however, and not wanting to drift away from showing respect to an absolute great, that was formed from his sense of being robbed against Leonard. I tend to agree with him on that too.
     
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    Me too.
     
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    Sad passing of a true legend d in the boxing world. I first watched him come over here and totally dismantle our own world champ at the time Alan Minter. His fight again Thomas 'the hitman' Hearns has gone down as one the of the most savage 3 rounds in boxing history. I also remember seeing his 'loss' to the American sweetheart at the time Sugar Ray Leonard .. totally robbed out of sight. For me he will always be one of the best pound for pound boxers I have ever seen .. RIP Marvin .. you were and always be a legend
     
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    He wanted to stop after the fight with John Mugabi, which is regarded as his best victory and fight but was persuaded to fight against Leonard. Many thought he won that fight. He was one of the few who managed to resist the temptation and money of a comeback and walked away with his health and wealth. Few managed that.
     
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    Top pugilist. He wasn't going to be denied again when he took Minter apart. Like the time before when he fought for the title and the champion (can't recall his name) got a very dodgy home draw.
     
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    That four-way rivalry gave us the best boxing of my lifetime. And Hagler was my favourite of the four, a perfect blend of skill and brutality.
     
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    Not just Hagler but Hearns, Duran and Leonard. We were indeed blessed.
     
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    The crowd
    At the Minter fight were embarrassing morons.Their reaction was disgraceful. I remember my dad, who loved boxing, when I next saw him after the fight saying didn't those 8diot Londoners realise they had just seen the emergence of as good a fighter as they would ever see live?
     
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    John Ex Aberdeen now E.R. Well-Known Member

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    He truly was one of the all-time greats, a sad day to hear of his passing. RIP Marvin
     
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    Totally agree
     
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    Red top reader Well-Known Member

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    I completely forgot about the disgusting scenes after the fight, your dad as dads usually are was totally correct.
     
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