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  1. gelders pie

    gelders pie Well-Known Member

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    Happy to forfeit any fee in return for the intense publicity. Unbelievable hypocrisy from someone who says she wants privacy. I think she had an idea of being a fairytale princess, but her idea of that didn't include having to work, on royal duties that would be given to her, rather than being able to cherry pick the nicer ones that would help her popularity, or which would be solely her and Harry so she could monopolize the cameras. Couldn't handle that there was another fairytale princess who would always be more important , probably always more popular , and would have first call on the interest.
     
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  2. Guy Incognito

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    Keeping in with Oprah, the "Queen of Hollywood" and one of the most influential people in America will help a lot. Her endorsements for their Netflix, Spotify showd and charity's could make or break them.

    My take on it, people are half right when they say she was after the money and glamour of being married into the Royal family. She was a little known actress but because she got involved with him she became one of the most widely known people in the world. I think she thought she could use that profile, plus the money and glamour to push her activism, but then quickly found out it doesn't work that way and you have limits on what you can do as a member of the BRF. Then she spat her dummy out when she couldn't do what she wanted (hence the no one looked out for me, I wanted to kill myself), clashed with people, allegedly bullied her staff (I can believe she could have taken it out on her staff, which is why there was a huge turn over there) and the more she pushed, the more the BRF pushed back. Then comes the sense of injustice and playing the race, mysogeny and mental health cards after they buggered off.

    In all, I don't think there's any winners in this. Some points scored on their favour now, but let's see what happens when the dust starts to settle. If Harry seriously wanted to patch things up with his family, I doubt this has done much good. A few friends of mine who are ex services have now turned against him, from being big supporters previously. It's diminished and damaged the BRF, which is where they get their glamour and status from. And after all this, do they think they'll be welcomed back with smiles and open arms when Philip inevitably dies, which most people think isn't too far off? If he dies this year, will they attend the funeral? She might be able to not go due to being pregnant (didn't stop her flying to New York for a baby shower though) but it's going to be seen as a snub, real or not. And if things don't improve between them and the rest of the BRF, they'll gradually get moved further and further from the glamour so will have to find other ways of generating income and trying to stay in the spot light.
     
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  3. Oliver's Army

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    The firm...

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  4. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    Makes a lot of sense mate.

    I keep hearing that loads of people have anxiety issues and stress because they're worried about jobs, mortgages, etc.

    I'd say it's perfectly normal to be anxious about things ...

    ... it doesn't automatically mean you're mentally ill.
     
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  5. gelders pie

    gelders pie Well-Known Member

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    Thats a really interesting observation. I think a lot of people could read that , evaluate what things they think are affecting their mental health, and feel better by realising that maybe they are not so crucial after all. Not necessarily that simple of course, I fully understand that sometimes it does just take the smallest of issues to tip people over.
     
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  6. gelders pie

    gelders pie Well-Known Member

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    We have to have some anxiety, it's a human tool to help us. If we'd not been anxious about the danger of the sabre tooth tiger, we wouldn't be here to worry about anything.
     
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  7. The Norton Cat

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    I honestly don't think she's selfless enough to be involved in something like that. She comes across as a complete narcissist to me.
     
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  8. Gromit

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    Growing up I was never a supporter of the BRF. In fact if you'd asked me about them until I was in my late teens, I'd have probably said get rid of them. But as I got older I realised how lucky we are to have a monarchy and how lucky we are with all the pomp and pageantry that goes with it. It's part of the British identity, it's part of who we are, it makes us different and no one does a state occasion like we do. Yes, there is a hell of a lot wrong with it, and obviously it doesn't take much digging to see the darker underside of it where individuals have taken and used it to their own benefit (Yes Andrew, I'm talking about you!!). I genuinely think it brings for more benefit for the country and the commonwealth than it detracts.

    But I have zero sympathy for Megan claiming she didn't realise what it would be like to marry a British Prince. IMO she knew 100% what she was getting into, the difference being she thought she could handle it and realised pretty quickly she couldn't. It's a completely different level to being a TV actress who's had a little bit of success to becoming one of the most famous women in the world where everything, and I mean everything is under the microscope. That must be horrendous to live with, but she absolutely knew this was going to happen. Did this cause her to have mental health problems? Possibly and none of us can know for certain. But I think like others before her, she thought she was the one who could change it, manage it, mould it to her will and has failed. Now she's using the nuclear option with this interview and there will be no winners only losers.

    The monarchy hasn't gotten to where it is by being a push over or bending to popular opinion. The monarchy is like a glacier, change comes slowly and imperceptible.
     
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  9. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    When they're divorced she'll get all the sympathy, custody of the kids and the CDs ....

    .... he'll either be stuck there with no one or in his mam's back bedroom.

    What an idiot.
     
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  10. Bank of England 2

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    This. As the saying goes, there's no such thing as bad publicity
     
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  11. Disco down under

    Disco down under Well-Known Member

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    I bet Gary Glitter would disagree with you.
     
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  12. Nads

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    Absolutely agree.

    The high cost of living and the pressure on folk just to get by is massive now.

    Young lads and lasses finding there way have kids and it stretches them, and then social media makes it looks like everyone is making it.

    I openly admit I was skint, and debt up to eyeballs until my late 20’s, and life was a lot cheaper and less public then.

    Factor in that it was more taboo, more seen as a weakness than an illness.

    Mental health is very real, it’s the manipulation of that for gain that irks folk.
     
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  13. Bank of England 2

    Bank of England 2 Well-Known Member

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    I don't think he could care less mate. He's well used to porridge.
     
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  14. E.T. Fairfax

    E.T. Fairfax Well-Known Member

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    The Internet doesnt help either. I mean, its positives are a wonderful thing, but it also means that so much negativity is available at peoples fingertips. If a child was exposed to a paedophile it would often be a result of them bumping into the local weirdo. Now they are basically exposed in their 100's over the internet daily. If a kid was being bullied, it would normally be at school, by somebody they knew, at playtime. Now kids are exposed 24/7 and often bullied by total strangers. A terrorist would be recruited in the middle east, often due to first hand experience of the injustices and hardships they suffer at the hands of others. Now they are being recruited in council house bedrooms in the UK, after having their tea and doing their homework. Even the snowflake culture. They would have been laughed at from the masses if they come up with some of the **** they come up with a few decades ago. Claims of racism, sexism, any other -isms when there isnt any there. It is spreading like a disease through the internet. Snowflakery is becoming the norm, the internet given the easily offended a platform, leaving the majority of the rest of us feeling like bigots.
    Decades ago we were not exposed to the suffering in this world, we only got little snippets in the newspapers or on the telly. Now we can delve deeper into the horrors and injustices, you just need to look at Leaked Reality for 10 minutes, for it to effect a persons mood. I often wish the internet had never been invented, it is slowly turning the human race mad.
     
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  15. Nads

    Nads Well-Known Member

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    Agree 55,

    The issue being some of it is very real, it was hidden before but it was there, the BBC peado scandal etc shows that.

    People battled with mental health issues, most have been there, most have managed to contain it.

    As things become less taboo, they appear more commonplace and folk therefore become sceptical.

    It’s a shame, it’s human nature to question, but the numbers of deaths and such don’t lie, and as you say the technology that has enriched lives has also made it easier in a way for folk to not deal as its become normalised.

    There’s a balance to this that sadly the human race hasn’t found.
     
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  16. Sidthemackem

    Sidthemackem Newcastle United 0-1 Cambridge United
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    Spot on and well said. Social media seem to be a short-cut to people's tender bits, these days. When I was a kid, if someone told you to **** off you either punched them on the nose or you ****ed off. You didn't bleat about it to a bunch of strangers. Besides, if you have a problem and tell everyone, half the people you tell don't care and the other half are glad you've got the problem.
     
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  17. Good post mate.
     
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  18. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    It's quite unnerving when a pack of RTG posters start their attack. They swamp the thread which drives away decent people who just want to discuss the topic.

    Then they close in screaming 'meltdown' and try to push their victim over the edge ...

    ... yet are so quick to take the moral high ground on issues that suit them.

    Pathetic people who act big man from the safety of their screen.

    I don't use other forums but I'd imagine that kind of behaviour is rife ...

    ... I've heard Mumsnet can get a bit nasty.
     
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  19. vinkel

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    I am in no way a royalist, but ever since prince Harry announced his intentions to marry I thought this spells trouble.
     
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  20. MrRAWhite

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    I'm not a royalist and don't have any inside info to make an objective judgement regarding who said what and who didn't.
    What I do know is that our tabloid press are a disgrace and have not given her the lickings of a dog.
     
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