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The #LUFC Breakfast Debate (Monday 8th March)

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  1. ellandback

    ellandback Well-Known Member
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    perfect1.jpg Good Morning. It's Monday 8th March, and here are the latest headlines from Elland Road


    If Leeds lose Bielsa, they will be relegated next year - Pundit

    Soccer pundit Dean Windass believes the difference between Bielsa staying and going would be Europe, if Bielsa stays, or relegation if he leaves. Speaking recently, the former cod head, Blade, Wendie, Smoggo, Bradford, Oldham (whi have just sacked Harry Kewell) and practically every other lower league rival to the Whites said as follows:-

    If Leeds lose Bielsa, Leeds will get relegated next year. If Leeds keep Bielsa and he brings in the players he wants to bring in, no disrespect to Leeds United, he’s got six or seven Championship players in that football team that are absolutely unbelievable because of the manager.

    “I think if Leeds keep Bielsa and he brings four or five quality players, Leeds United could be in the top-four next year.” “I wouldn’t like to be the next Leeds manager if Bielsa says he isn’t staying, because the Leeds United fans absolutely love him. I think the key will be him, it’s not about if he’s going to get the sack, it’s if he will walk away.”

    Is Bielsa THAT important to the Whites?

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    Rodrigo and Phillips back for Hammers test

    Rodrigo and Kalvin Phillips have both travelled with the Leeds squad for tonight's crunch game at the London Stadium. The duo have been missing from first team action for six and four games respectively.

    Rodrigo completed 45 minutes of the U23's game at Wolves last Friday scoring a hat trick. Unfortunately, the referee wrongly chalked the third goal off claiming the entire ball had not crossed the goal line. Replay's conclusively show it did!

    Bielsa has been keeping tight lipped over Phillips return. The 25yo played no part in Leeds 23's win last week, but due his his high fitness would not have a problem starting where he left off.

    The news comes as welcome relief for Leeds fans hoping Bielsa's team will break their London hoodoo which has blighted their progression for over three years.

    The Whites will be without Pascal Struijk. The former Ajax youngster limped off against Villa, ruling himself out of action for several weeks.

    With a Leeds team including Llorente, Phillips and Rodrigo, what difference will that have in the Premiership?

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  2. hemase

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    Morning all,

    Bit of a sweeping statement from another idiot paid to have an opinion. We all know how great Bielsa is and I do believe with him in charge we will make a run at Europe next season. However, to believe that without him we will be automatically sucked into a relegation battle.

    Yes replacing Bielsa will be hard but I find it very disrespectful to the large number of excellent coaches/managers out there.
     
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    agreed, it also assumes that :
    - the new manager won’t be chosen to continue the bielsa style/methodology
    - those ‘championship’ players will unlearn the development they have made under bielsa.
     
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    I think his surname speaks volumes. WINDass:grin: It'll be very hard to replace Bielsa, every dog on the street knows that, it doesn't take some average ex footballer to tell us that. Hopefully when that day comes, Bielsa will be involved with his replacement. <ok>
     
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    Morning all. I think Bielsa is part of a structure being built by Rads. His project includes the 49ers, Kinnear, Orta and especially Bielsa.
    I think Bielsa is much too honourable a man to just up and leave but, if he did, I think Rads is clever enough that he has a plan in place.
    I think Bielsa sees this as his Opus, his opportunity to achieve all that he dreams of. In Rads he has found someone who is willing to buy in to his vision.
    He won't walk away before everything is in place for his successor. Unlike Ferguson, who knew that he had reached the crest of a very steep hill with Manure, before he left, damning his replacement to a huge rebuilding job.
    Leeds won't be a poison chalice in my opinion.
     
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  7. Irishshako

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    Elland I thought the club had got a restraining order against you:emoticon-0136-giggl
     
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  8. Doc

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    So Windass is really in the agbonlahor bellend league, so pointless even mentioning it. Hat we do know as fact is the following:
    1. Bielsa, Orta and Radz have made a shortlist of candidate to take over whenever Bielsa leaves. So it will be a coach who Bielsa believes in.
    2. Bielsa and Orta have compiled a list of players they want for next season. The list is full of attributes required for each position. So if Bielsa leaves the new players will already have been brought in and they know that the new guy will trust the players Bielsa brought in.
    3. So the reality is that Bielsa may decide to go, but very doubtful, and if he does go we will see not much difference, except maybe tactically at times.
     
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    I don't usually look too far ahead at who we have to play against in our up coming fixtures, but the only game that looks easiest on paper is the final match against WBA. All the other games look difficult and for different reasons.<yikes>
     
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    Dean windass....manager of East Hull, think quite a few on here could give a better presentation on our club's strategy with or without bielsa...bore off deano
     
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    Has anyone any idea about what goes on this season with regard to away games and hotels etc. I assumed that most games would see there and back coach trip with an agreed watering hole agreed for pre match meal etc. The photos on this thread were from yesterday which means a first class train carriage reserved and a hotel close to the London Stadium? I am guessing that WHU have done a deal with a hotel to be available for any away teams and the hotel is only open to football clubs who can stay safe in their bubble and have meals cooked etc? Crazy times means crazy logistics. I thought we would have hired a plane for London, Southampton etc so there and back in the day? Wonder if Leeds has done a deal for visiting fans with a hotel and chef etc?
     
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    Shaks just to stop you slashing your wrists, I’ve had a look at the bookies odds because you never see a poor bookie and Leeds are not anywhere near the running
    1/100 Sheffield United

    1/50 West Brom

    1/1 Newcastle United

    17/10 Fulham

    11/2 Brighton

    13/2 Burnley

    45/1 Crystal Palace

    50/1 Southampton
     
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  13. Doc

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    Highly unlikely that Palace, Southampton, Wolves and Leeds will get near relegation
     
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    I love that Newcastle are now preferred to Fulham to go down.
     
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    Evening all
     
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    Doing one of those stupid predict all the results to see where you finish you find on websites, I had us virtually mathematically safe with 5 games to go, being 15 points ahead of Newcastle, with a goal difference in our favour of 25, so even us losing our last 5 games by 2 goals and Newcastle winning by 2 goals , we would still be better off on goal difference by 5 goals.

    That had us in 11th position, so there were still 5 teams that were more easily caught by the team in 18th place than ourselves.

    I didn't try and predict any further as I felt we could achieve one point from the remaining 5 games to make it a non issue. So of our next 7 games I felt we could get 2 wins, 2 draws and 3 defeats. Hopefully my predicting skills be slightly better than on Gessa's prediction thread in which despite having been top on points for 25 out of 26 weeks, I've averaged getting 4 out of 6 results totally wrong every week :-D
     
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    Is Windass a complicated way of saying 'fart'?
     
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  18. Aski

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    Wish that I was able to get paid for stating the obvious like a lot of ex footballers who now think they are the Bob Woodford of football journalism.

    I was about to make some skit about Sky getting a quote from a footballer saying that if Leeds win, they will have 3 more points, then realised that Karen Carney had already surpassed that level of investigative journalism with her Chelsea F A cup game comment
     
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  19. Leedsoflondon

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    Who’s Bob Woodford???
     
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    One of the journalists who broke the Watergate scandal news about Richard Nixon in the early 70's.

    That was in the days when journalists did proper investigation before reporting their news
     
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