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  1. YorkieLancsHampyLondoner

    YorkieLancsHampyLondoner Well-Known Member

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    Obviously Lambert will be getting a pay off even if not the full contract. Evans as we know has no integrity whatsoever and that’s why Frank Lampard was going nowhere near the club when he was interviewed.

    It baffles me how different people can judge characters so differently, then again, I guess that’s how we keep ending up with Tories in power.
     
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  2. Nuggets

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    Apparently Paul Cook is pretty much done and dusted and he'll be announced within the next couple of days. The takeover is also rumoured to be finalised and formally announced at some point over this next week.
     
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  3. YorkieLancsHampyLondoner

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    If this is true then perhaps it was all just part of the agreement with the new ownership.
     
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    That's my thinking, Hampy. Earlier in the week, the Athletic were reporting that Paul Cook was lined up as the replacement and events are proving their exclusive spot on so far. I think Evans was going to leave it in the hands of the new owners, but I guess the rather public comments from Lambert this week - and the reportedly stormy meeting on Thursday - has made Evans act earlier.

    While I'm a big fan of Cook and I think he provides a noticeable improvement over Lambert - it is concerning that this is our third consecutive Paul and the previous two were a hapless pair! Third time lucky?
     
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    I really don’t think Paul Hurst was hapless. I have to say Paul Cook doesn’t particularly inspire me but then again we only need a half decent manager to get us out of this league.

    I wonder if Lambert didn’t want Evans to sell, convinced he could get us back up this season.
     
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    Regarding the compensation, below is being reported by the Athletic:

    Lambert still had another four years to run on a contract extension signed with Ipswich in December 2019 but there is a break clause included that would limit compensation to 12 months’ salary.
     
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    [QUOTE="It baffles me how different people can judge characters so differently, then again, I guess that’s how we keep ending up with Tories in power.[/QUOTE]

    I don't think it's right that people should be offensive and rude to people that they don't actually know ( and even if they did it would still be unacceptable to do so). I didn't like what PL did as a manager for this club but I'm certainly in no position to insult the bloke on a personal basis just because he didn't fulfil my expectations in his role as manager. I can't see how it is constructive in anyway, shape or form to insult people on a personal level because they were just doing their job be it well or otherwise. I am sure most people would not be happy if some stranger started to insult them on a personal level about their employment or something else they knew absolutely nothing about.
     
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    My main opinion on PL is unfulfilled optimism. Said all the right things when he took over, got the supporters back on side but failed to back it up on the pitch due partly (in my opinion) to stubberness. His statement earlier in the season stating we can't play 2 up front along with asking our defnders to play as if they were playing for Man City were both glaring errors. ok to try changing the system but if it doesn't work, change it back. With what I heard about Saturday's game (coaches rather than PL organising from the touchline), I now wonder if it was PL who switched formation back to 442 or 4411 if you prefer or whether it was Gill & the other coaches doing this. I will be interested to see how quickly Jackson & Nolan are brought in from the cold
     
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    If you think me stating that you have a polar opposite opinion to me on the situation as an insult, it certainly wasn’t intended that way. I do find it baffling that people can view the same situation in completely different ways.

    How is calling Evans slippery as an eel not an insult?

    In my view Lambert is a horrendous character and lacks integrity. Character is an integral part of the job a manager does.

    By the way, if it’s okay to pass comment at all on someone’s character then it has to be okay to counter that.
     
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    and Donacien, Woolfy. It’s quite a long list.
     
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    The only reason Lambert would have for not wanting Evans to sell is the fact a new owner would want to replace him,not the outside chance he’d get us promoted this Season.
     
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    Like you say we all have our own opinions and rightly so.

    My reference to Evans was to the way he operated regarding the contact extension he gave PL rather than a personal insult - There are plenty of alternatives to describe the way a person operates on a professional level and this expression seemed apt for said business deal.
     
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    Unless Evans doe sell up and ship out nothing will change under the new manager.
     
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    Not sure I agree with that. There are plenty of managers and clubs with smaller budgets that put together cohesive teams that are competitive so no reason that can't be done at Ipswich.

    The one thing that won't change if Evans remains owner is that all our managers have to deal with being the fall guy for Marcus. I think that's what gets to them in the end.
     
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    It was the same in the championship for a while and Evans managed to bring us in line with the worst in that league and I think if he stays we will only go one way.
     
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    I think we have got a good chance of having a new manager bounce and making the play offs, then it’s a lottery. If Evans remains then our fate probably depends on that because without investment we will slowly and painfully continue to deteriorate.
     
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    Are they hopeless managers or hopeless appointments? All have had success elsewhere whereas its felt like ground hog day supporting Ipswich since ME has been here
     
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    Difficult to judge whether Hurst is a good manager or not but what was clear was that he well and truly sunk here, probably more so than any other manager. His short spell probably did more damage than any other manager in Ipswich history but coincidently I don't believe he's Evans worst appointment, like many ME appointments its a case of wrong manager wrong time or should I say right manager wrong owner

    Personally I think it will take a good manager with alot of character and broad shoulders to do well here. I believe I said the same thing when Hurst was appointed and coincidentally at the time I believe I was advocating Paul Cook because he seems like he has that character.
     
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    Agreed. Hurst would certainly have fared better if the club was run properly or if he had an experienced Director of Football working with him, hence why I think he was hapless at the club. Although I believe his decisions to recruit so many untried lower league players - most of them making them step up to the Championship for the first time - was a series of massive errors in hindsight. We lost our top six goalscorers from McCarthy's last season, as well as our best centre-back in Adam Webster, and replaced them with mostly guff. A Director of Football would have mitigated those recruitment mistakes and would've possibly limited the damage done to the relationship between Hurst and the players.

    I think Paul Cook would be a good manager for Ipswich. He comes across really well in the media and has a history of getting clubs promoted and getting them punching above their weight. Of course, Evans usually hires successful managers who all (with the exception of McCarthy) struggle here because of how the club is run. I think it's also noticeable that the stock of the club has fallen significantly over the last decade, we're no longer going to attract bid name managers.

    A bad owner does hold a club back, but I think a strong manager can overcome some of those issues, and I believe that we have the squad quality and depth to get out of the third division. A change of owner and some actual investment in the club - rather than just plugging gaps and standing back - will help us to bridge the gap between ourselves and most of the Championship clubs.
     
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    Should Cook be appointed at least we’ll have someone who takes Cup competitions seriously for a change.
     
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