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Discussion in 'Queens Park Rangers' started by Stroller, Jun 25, 2015.

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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

Poll closed Jun 24, 2016.
  1. Stay in

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    47.9%
  2. Get out

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  1. Bwood_Ranger

    Bwood_Ranger 2023 Funniest Poster

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    And plenty will have respected the guidelines and just been generally good people who undeservedly died due to Johnson sitting on his arse doing **** all for weeks at the start or because a world-beating track and trace system barely worked.
     
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    And what about recently? more deaths happened months after the initial lockdown. Stop blaming Boris for everything as you sound stupid. Many people broke the rules and we are paying for it. as for the T&T nearly 35% of people ignored it once contacted... is that also Boris fault? Maybe in your eyes but for normal folk many people took the P.
     
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    Not sure the spike in deaths after he bravely battled the experts to save Christmas is the defence you think it is. I assume “normal folk” is code for dopey Express readers.
     
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    my assessment on this is clouded by my own view, which he has all but admitted to "we all do things we regret when we are drunk" that he was a nasty egotist and who when he thought he could get away with it.. was a sexual predator. I have experienced this myself (yuck!) and so can well believe what he said about himself.
     
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    People knew about Christmas and the risks. They were told about the new variant. As a family (8 people) we decided not to meet up for one day and risk undoing all the sacrifices and hard work of isolating. None of us have caught covid, so I guess us dopey Express readers have done something right?
     
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  7. Bwood_Ranger

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    At least you acknowledge you’re a dopey Express reader. This is progress.
     
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    Typically you. I don't read the Express I was just making a point.... which you couldn't answer.
     
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    It wasn’t really a point at all. You and your family aren’t representative of the millions of people who will have mixed who wouldn’t have done had Johnson just been up front with people rather than going for the theatre of making Starmer out to be a grinch in parliament and craving the headlines of being a Christmas-saving superhero in the gammon press.
     
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    2 things...Firstly that was from the 16th of December. I remember it well. A few days later new data came out regarding the new variant and many families like us cancelled Christmas. There were plenty of warnings at the time.
    Secondly, Keir Starmer position changes from week to week or should I say 'weak to weak', so I wouldn't listen to Captain Hindsight.
     
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    Of course, 'Captain Hindsight ' suggesting to Johnson that he ought to do something that he subsequently actually did. The 'new variant' had been known for weeks.​
     
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    But they were upfront with people. At the time they thought Christmas was okay due to data but a few days later the data came out and contradicted it. There was plenty of warning as I recall many moaning about not seeing family at Christmas. I would like to see Starmer try and be an opposition rather than a grinch... but that won't happen.
     
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    Stop talking rubbish. The new variant may have been known for weeks but new data was released just before Christmas which changed things. As I said, I remember it well because as a family we took the decision just before Christmas for that reason.
     
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    So much warning that nine days before Christmas he was belittling “Captain Hindsight” for actually predicting the future while knowing there was a new variant which could change his instructions within days. Your timeline is absolute bollocks.
     
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    No my timeline is correct. You are the one talking utter bollox as usual.
     
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    'He wants to cancel Christmas, Mr Speaker'.
     
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    And just to prove you are stupid and talking bollox.
    From the BBC 23rd Dec
    The government has scrapped plans to relax Covid rules at Christmas for London and much of south-east England, where tier four restrictions will now apply.
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/explainers-55056375
     
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    Genuinely not sure if you’re ignorant, an apologist or just being stupid.

    He knew about the variant weeks before. He knew there was a good chance he’d have to change the guidance, which was blatantly wrong even without the Kent variant. He could have been responsible in the weeks before but had to be the hero.
     
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    At least if you are going to debate this, stick to the point.
    I have already said (previously) that Boris was stupid to say what he did in the house on the 16th as the new data made him look silly.
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    We were told just before Christmas that new data showed a steep rise in infections and Christmas was basically over.
     
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    idiot who can't even admit when he is wrong. Go away until you are decent enough to admit you were talking bollox.
    As proved.
     
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