1. Log in now to remove adverts - no adverts at all to registered members!

Off Topic Covid 19 restrictions have done one

Discussion in 'Hull City' started by dennisboothstash, Oct 29, 2020.

  1. DMD

    DMD Eh?
    Forum Moderator

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2011
    Messages:
    61,068
    Likes Received:
    50,681
    #3421
  2. Ric Glasgow

    Ric Glasgow Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 2, 2014
    Messages:
    7,125
    Likes Received:
    11,711
    #3422
  3. DMD

    DMD Eh?
    Forum Moderator

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2011
    Messages:
    61,068
    Likes Received:
    50,681
    Britain’s health chief says a new study showing that a single dose of the COVID-19 vaccine developed by Oxford University and AstraZeneca provides a high level of protection for 12 weeks supports the government’s strategy of delaying the second shot so more doses can be delivered to more people.

    Health Secretary Matt Hancock’s comments came after Oxford released a study showing the vaccine cut transmission of the virus by two-thirds and prevented severe disease. The study has not been peer-reviewed yet, but it was greeted with excitement by U.K. officials under pressure to justify their decision to delay the second dose.

    “That reduction in transmission, as well as the fact there is no hospitalizations, the combination of that is very good news. And it categorically supports the strategy we’ve been taking on having a 12-week gap between the doses,” Hancock told Sky News on Wednesday.

    https://nypost.com/2021/02/03/astra...ly-cuts-transmission-of-covid-19-study-finds/
     
    #3423
  4. DMD

    DMD Eh?
    Forum Moderator

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2011
    Messages:
    61,068
    Likes Received:
    50,681
    If an individual is taking all sensible precautions, and keeping social contacts to a minimum, showing no symptoms themselves and nobody in their immediate circle or even in the extended circle is showing symptoms or testing positive, is it reasonable to assume they themselves are negative?

    If so, what would be the advantage to them or society in them having a test that at best could only show that they were clear of the virus at that specific point in time?

    I get that it could limit the spread if they had somehow picked up the virus despite all of those measures, but if they are taking pretty much full precautions already, I don't see that would change much anyway.
     
    #3424
    SW3 Chelsea Tiger and Cortez91 like this.
  5. Newlandcasual2

    Newlandcasual2 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 6, 2020
    Messages:
    412
    Likes Received:
    879
    Hull has gone back up the covid league but at the same time cases have dropped to 174 per 100,000, the East Riding is even better though the fact we wont be going back to tiers still good to know the levels of infection in the community are sharply declining as we head towards spring.

     
    #3425
  6. brownbagtiger

    brownbagtiger Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 20, 2015
    Messages:
    1,590
    Likes Received:
    2,151
    No, because about 20-30% of people with the virus are asymptomatic (numbers vary between studies).

    Society gets to find out if the numbers of asymptomatic infections are up or down and you get to know if you are yourself a carrier of the virus.

    Sensible or full precautions? Taking sensible precautions is a middle ground approach in the circumstances you describe above to be able to have some degree of freedom to earn a living and shop and exercise. Full precautions are staying at home and not interacting with anyone, and limiting interactions with other members of your household wherever possible. Which is what people who are virus carriers need to do.
     
    #3426
  7. DMD

    DMD Eh?
    Forum Moderator

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2011
    Messages:
    61,068
    Likes Received:
    50,681
    Surely, if an individual was an asymptomatic spreader, they would become aware of people that they had spent time with contracting the virus, especially after all this time, and if they are careful who they mix with?

    By sensible precautions, I'm pretty much referring to what you describe as 'full'.
     
    #3427
  8. Barchullona

    Barchullona Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 20, 2012
    Messages:
    29,658
    Likes Received:
    14,737
    From 9.37 am on the coming Saturday pubs should be open for people who have had the jab.
    Well, 3 days from Saturday as the advice is not to have alcohol for a few days either side of the jab.
     
    #3428
    Ric Glasgow likes this.
  9. tigerscanada

    tigerscanada Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 21, 2012
    Messages:
    24,257
    Likes Received:
    9,570
    Not if everyone they infected were asymptomatic, untested and still alive OR they infected someone randomly they didn't know (e.g. passing too close to on the street or in a line-up in a supermarket etc, even if wearing a mask) who passed on the infection to others not in their circle.
     
    #3429
  10. DMD

    DMD Eh?
    Forum Moderator

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2011
    Messages:
    61,068
    Likes Received:
    50,681
    Rather extreme in itself, especially if nobody in the wider circle is found positive, but all of that applies the minute you walk out of the test centre, never mind the journey in to it.
     
    #3430

  11. Ron Burguvdy

    Ron Burguvdy Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 9, 2011
    Messages:
    12,041
    Likes Received:
    13,975
    Wow these dialogues above must be what the inner sanctums of SAGE must be like

    or an episode of Last of the Summer Whine...
     
    #3431
  12. Ron Burguvdy

    Ron Burguvdy Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 9, 2011
    Messages:
    12,041
    Likes Received:
    13,975
    Has someone been jabbed?
     
    #3432
  13. Barchullona

    Barchullona Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 20, 2012
    Messages:
    29,658
    Likes Received:
    14,737
    Not yet. Perceptions and thoughts on the subject will be different from 9.37am on Saturday.
     
    #3433
    Ric Glasgow and Ron Burguvdy like this.
  14. spesupersydera

    spesupersydera Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 22, 2014
    Messages:
    9,922
    Likes Received:
    9,405
    I 'Like' x10 <laugh><laugh><laugh><laugh><laugh>
     
    #3434
  15. Ric Glasgow

    Ric Glasgow Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 2, 2014
    Messages:
    7,125
    Likes Received:
    11,711
    IMG-20210202-WA0021.jpg
     
    #3435
  16. tigerscanada

    tigerscanada Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 21, 2012
    Messages:
    24,257
    Likes Received:
    9,570
    Good to see there are still fans of episodes of Jackanory adding value to debate.
     
    #3436
    Ron Burguvdy likes this.
  17. SW3 Chelsea Tiger

    SW3 Chelsea Tiger Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 27, 2011
    Messages:
    8,727
    Likes Received:
    12,047
    did you hear what her nickname was at college?
    Seaweed....not even the tide would take her out
     
    #3437
    Ric Glasgow likes this.
  18. Ernie Shackleton

    Ernie Shackleton Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 21, 2013
    Messages:
    11,394
    Likes Received:
    19,258
    I can't understand why everyone compares Nicola Sturgeon to The Krankie's to be honest.










    Bit harsh on poor Janette if the truth be told.
     
    #3438
  19. ....

    .... Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 3, 2011
    Messages:
    1,336
    Likes Received:
    334
    If anyone actually wants to hear the science behind things to do with the vaccine and Covid in general I have been watching this channel as he breaks it down quite nicely

    Dr. John Campbell - YouTube
     
    #3439
    Ric Glasgow and DMD like this.
  20. DMD

    DMD Eh?
    Forum Moderator

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2011
    Messages:
    61,068
    Likes Received:
    50,681
    I've also found his videos informative and well balanced, although when I have posted them in the past, some people were not as impressed, although they were not at all specific as to why.
     
    #3440
    Ric Glasgow likes this.

Share This Page