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Off Topic Covid 19 restrictions have done one

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  1. Plum

    Plum Well-Known Member

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    While I'm the first to condemn people who break the rules we don't actually know where he picked it up from. Could he have picked it up from his own family? I understand he was on holiday in Barbados in December, he might have picked it up there, on the plane, anywhere really. It's a bit harsh to jump on the 'all young folk are twats' bandwagon without knowing the facts.
     
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    Prevention is better (cheaper) than cure.
     
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    He was a great chap.... but come on have perspective.....he was 100 years old & had pneumonia before he got Covid.

    Let’s not get melodramatic, no link to youths. Unless you have hard evidence??
     
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    Pretty well summed up.The old boy was 100 years old,went to Barbados,came back and at some point caught pneumonia....He's caught Covid as some sort of result of this.

    If anything,his family have been a bit naive taking him on holiday in the middle of a pandemic?
     
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    How do you deny a 100 year old hero, who's adulated by his countrymen, and worldwide, what might have been his last wish.
    I suspect he knew the risks. Sounds like he'd had negative test results before he departed on his trip.
     
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    Apparently it was a free holiday gifted to him
     
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  7. Ric Glasgow

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    I haven't or wouldn't have denied him anything.If it was truly his last wish then fair play to him.He was 100,he was extremely vulnerable to a winter cold,chest infection,pneumonia or Covid??? I couldn't picture myself taking my late Father or Mother on such a journey and they were considerably younger than Captain Tom when they died(Pneumonia,Winter months).
     
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  8. Ric Glasgow

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    British Airways as far as I'm aware.
     
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    exactly .... they took a measured risk.... great holiday but put granddad at Risk....

    Looks like cocktails & sunsets won.
     
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    All those selfish youngsters going on holiday to Barbados.
     
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    I was not suggesting you would. Perhaps I should have phrased it "How would one...".
    His family would perhaps have tooked at the situation differently from you or I. It's not for us to judge their intent in my opinion, as we don't know why and therefore should not speculate.
     
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    It generally is. But then it’s weighing up the cost of how many younger people are going to be severely ill if they catch Covid (should these have a vaccine every year when a small, small % of them will need treatment if they catch it). 1,000 vaccines versus 1 anti viral treatment, for example.

    Obviously, it won’t be as black and white a comparison as that. What I mean is: not everybody has the flu vaccine every year as they don’t realistically need it. It may end up being a similar case with Covid.
     
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    How are they getting that data?
     
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    I'd guess a combination of modelling and looking at those who had the drug during testing. But don't know really...
     
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    I’d say more meddling than modelling tbh
    Just how can they say that?
     
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    Researchers at the University of Oxford have today published in Preprints with The Lancet an analysis of further data from the ongoing trials of the vaccine. In this, they reveal that the vaccine efficacy is higher at longer prime-boost intervals, and that a single dose of the vaccine is 76% effective from 22- to up to 90-days post vaccination.

    In this preprint, which is currently under review at The Lancet, they report on an analysis of additional data to include information from the trial up to the 7th December 2020, which includes a further 201 cases of primary symptomatic COVID-19 (332 cases from 131 reported in previously), They report that the effect of dosing interval on efficacy is pronounced, with vaccine efficacy rising from 54.9% with an interval of less than six weeks to 82.4% when spaced 12 or more weeks apart.

    They also detail that a single standard dose of the vaccine is 76% effective at protecting from primary symptomatic COVID-19 for the first 90 days post vaccination, once the immune system has built this protection 22 days after the vaccination, with the protection showing little evidence of waning in this period.
     
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    Who and where are the guinea pigs they’re doing this study on?
     
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    Chazz, a new avatar for you!

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    Click on the link. download the paper, read it & let us know.
     
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