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Discussion in 'Queens Park Rangers' started by Sooperhoop, Feb 8, 2020.

  1. ELLERS

    ELLERS Well-Known Member

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    Are we talking about your mates in the EU commission? They really are a great lot? <doh>
     
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    Covid: Thousands attend Israel funeral for orthodox rabbi
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    Thousands of ultra-Orthodox mourners have gathered in Jerusalem to attend the funeral of a top rabbi, in breach of Israel's coronavirus regulations.

    Rabbi Meshulam Dovid Soloveitchik, 99, died on Sunday following months of ill health after contracting Covid-19.

    The country is currently under a third national lockdown, but police did not intervene to disperse the crowd.

    The scenes sparked backlash from deputy prime minister Benny Gantz ahead of a vote to extend lockdown rules.

    "Millions of families and children are locked in their homes and abide by the rules while thousands of Haredim crowd the funeral, most of them even without masks," Mr Gantz tweeted describing it as evidence of "unequal enforcement".

    "We will not agree to the continuation of an ineffective fake lockdown. Either everyone is locked down - or everyone opens. The days of indulgence are over."

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    Relations between Israel's power-sharing coalition partners, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and the centrist Mr Gantz, collapsed last month.

    They and their parties will now face an early election in March - the fourth in two years. Ultra-Orthodox Israelis, or Haredim, make up a key part of Mr Netanyahu's voting base so the perceived double-standard about lockdown enforcement has become a big political issue.

    There has been clashes reported across the country in recent weeks when officials have tried to challenge groups flouting social distancing guidelines - including by keeping orthodox schools open and holding mass events.

    Israel has been racing ahead of other nations to vaccinate its population. More than a third of the country's 9m population have had their first dose and some 1.7m have received two.

    But despite health data showing protection is very high for those vaccinated, new infections have continued to grow by thousands daily
     
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  3. ELLERS

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    I’m confused... how the hell did Capt Tom get Covid? Did he not live with his daughter in a granny annexe? I’m sure she said he was well protected?
     
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    Might have picked it up while being treated for pneumonia
     
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    I mentioned Sir Tom's Covid to Mrs Maple and her immediate comment was identical to Ellers. My thoughts were was the same as Kiwi's
     
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    I saw this earlier, no doubt hundreds more will join the late Rabbi in the next few months...
     
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    I have just read that Capt Tom went to Barbados at Christmas.
     
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    Paid for by british airways
     
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    I'm not knocking him, because at the end of the day he has been an inspiration for the country. Just not sure flying to Barbados at Christmas was the right thing.
    I wonder if he will get all those Dominic Cummings activists lying down in the road outside his house? :emoticon-0100-smile
     
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    Poor captain Tom will struggle no doubt.
    Good man.
     
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    We cannot return to exactly the same conditions as before the pandemic Stan simply because our sense of invulnerabilty has gone. This pandemic has shown us that we need to step back a little from the idea of globalization (a polite word for Capitalism taking over the World) and need to relocalize resources more in the future. What has become plain to see is that the free market ideology can offer no solutions at times like this and that it has robbed the state of the central control of resources which is necessary under such emergency conditions. Ideally I hope that we will have at least learned that it is no advantage having such things as the pharmaceutical giants in private hands. I hope also that the days of cheap flights to exotic destinations (for less price than a train from Hamburg to Cologne) have gone, and also that we have seen the dangers inherent in our present animal farming. I resent the fact that this disease was brought into our countries by those privileged classes which can afford skiing holidays and have business connections to Asia and was then given to those most at risk ie. the poor - those who have to use public transport, cannot work from home, and who are less able to socially distance. What does 'getting back to normal' mean ? That I can go to concerts, restaurants, theatres, cinemas, small corner shops etc. But will they still be there after this is over ? Or will the town centres have died, and only global supermarket chains will be left over ? In short whole areas of the economy are being sacrificed for the common good - recompensing them for that will need use of measures such as wealth tax, and plans for a redistribution of wealth on a scale we have not seen before.
     
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    I was only reporting what the majority of the British people, according to a survey in a newspaper, would like, not calling for a blueprint for a new socio-economic order. Publish your manifesto and be damned!


    Perhaps not on this thread though. I think the GameStop stuff is more revolutionary than anything I’ve seen to do with the virus. Nationalise big Pharma and see exactly the same amount of innovative medicines released as were over decades by the old communist bloc and China, ie none, even though they had a massive incentive to invest in this.
     
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    It's not a case of publishing manifestoes Stan but rather opening up a new area of debate ie. what kind of World do we want to see post Covid 19. I don't think that you can deny that the countries which have struggled the most in the battle against Covid 19 are those where free market thinking are most pronounced. Do you really want to see whole countries cap in hand to the giant pharma industries and the question of supply of essentials becoming subject only to market forces ? The Germans had no idea until this crisis how many of their medicines had been outsourced to China without their knowledge and will reverse this after Covid 19. I have no intention of publishing manifestoes, and would not do it here - you are also doing me an injustice if you think that such a manifesto would resemble the so called 'old communist bloc' whose prime objective was to avoid real Communism.
     
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    Not a discussion I’m interested in having, I’m afraid. I’m sure you’ll find other takers.
     
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    Ok. I will consider this matter closed !
     
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    LONG HAUL
    Shocking graphic reveals the most common symptoms plaguing long Covid sufferers including fatigue and mental disorder


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    THIS graphic reveals the most common symptoms plaguing long Covid sufferers.

    It comes from a study that found eight in ten people who have had the coronavirus still battle at least one long-term side effect lasting more than two weeks.

    The analysis of all current evidence on the topic found more than 50 symptoms in so-called “long haulers”.

    Researchers in the US ranked each symptom based on how common they were in the 47,910 patients studied.

    The five most common symptoms were fatigue (58 per cent), headache (44 per cent), attention disorder (27 per cent), hair loss (25 per cent), and shortness of breath (24 per cent).

    Some of the less frequent problems were paranoia, PTSD, high blood pressure, stroke, diabetes and arrhythmia.

    But the scientists said there could be more symptoms yet to be identified in the future as the condition is studied more closely.

    Other scientists have said there could be 170 crippling symptoms, including rashes, brain fog, stabbing heart pains and depression.

    Scientists warned some of the long Covid symptoms could go on for many months, or years based on other coronaviruses such as SARS.

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/13909...pp&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=sharebarweb
     
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  17. Sooperhoop

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    <laugh> Sooper you know that will upset some...:emoticon-0140-rofl:
     
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    All politicians are fair game... :grin:
     
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    Here's some great news ... The Isle of Man has ended its Covid restrictions and has opened up all schools, pubs, restaurants and business's. Social distancing and face mask wearing will be a matter of personal choice and not compulsory.
     
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