Sorry did I hear that correctly. How do I put this politely. You time faced ref supporter. I think I succeeded
Match Day Thread Southampton v Aston Villa Saturday 30/1/2021 8pm Sky Sports
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Calm down fella.
Not great at but a few injuries. Compare to two years ago when we were ****. You need to show a bit of loyalty to Ralph
garysfc
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Trouble is it’s very subjective & a mm on the pass can make a few cms on the lines. These fine lines (including a marginal touch on a thigh before a deliberate handball) are dragging football down. If Var remains (as I’m sure it will) I don’t see any progress & we’ll just have to accept, even pizzle.
Lets look at tonight only. He still showed the two best moments of absolute class. The flick and assist fir the penalty and the oh so sexy ball the rough for Che’s chance that was saved.... I’ll hold the goal scorers, sniffing instinct back for now
Agreed. He also needs to sort his contract out. It's a distraction he and we don't need.
garysfc
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garysfc
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You went to a different referee school to Tom then
It doesn't matter how many times I read the law, even if I was desperate to justify Mike Dean's decision. I just can't agree. The wording is clear as day to me that deliberate handball is an offence - regardless of any deflection first. And there is no way in my mind that it wasn't deliberate.
On twitter - Paddy Power just announced they have refunded (as a free bet) all pre-match singles on Southampton to win, AND the draw in Southampton v Aston Villa, after two controversial decisions went against the Saints in their 0-1 defeat.
Says it all really.
Is it true Mike Dean is officiating our game on Tuesday?
Says it all really.
Is it true Mike Dean is officiating our game on Tuesday?
Personally thought he was poor and world have dragged him.ofc at HT with Walcott. Think Adams gave us more energy. Very unlike Ings performance. He was invisible, as was Walcott
Better ****ing hope not. I'll surrender before hand if he is. Useless twat will cost us again
The problem with the word "deliberate" is that unless a player catches and holds the ball you could argue that any other handball is accidental.
Was Cash's tonight deliberate? Maybe, he definitely moves towards the ball with his arm, but was this just a natural reaction to moving his leg to block the shot? In the slow mo it looks very much like he does, but also could be a "natural" movement that follows moving his leg to block the ball (and for me it does hit his thigh). The wording of the rule is wrong, as it has been for ages, you can't ever know if a handball is deliberate except in the most extreme examples or the player being completely honest about it
Here are the relevant bits of handball law from fa.com
Dean needs to answer for why he was unable to abide by the laws of football. Could it be any clearer?
It is an offence if a player:
Except for the above offences, it is not an offence if the ball touches a player’s hand/arm:
Dean needs to answer for why he was unable to abide by the laws of football. Could it be any clearer?
It is an offence if a player:
- deliberately touches the ball with their hand/arm, including moving the hand/arm towards the ball
- scores in the opponents’ goal directly from their hand/arm, even if accidental, including by the goalkeeper
- after the ball has touched their or a team-mate’s hand/arm, even if accidental, immediately:
- scores in the opponents’ goal
- creates a goal-scoring opportunity
- touches the ball with their hand/arm when:
- the hand/arm has made their body unnaturally bigger
- the hand/arm is above/beyond their shoulder level (unless the player deliberately plays the ball which then touches their hand/arm
Except for the above offences, it is not an offence if the ball touches a player’s hand/arm:
- directly from the player’s own head or body (including the foot)
Clown, : an explanation of someone you who does silly things and on occasion say lots of silly things.
Clear it ups little
Yet still he gave us our two best moments of quality. That is why he is so important. Set up the “penalty” with a moment of genius, the through ball for Adams for his chance was sublime and he still poached the “equaliser” in the 92 minute.
I know he wasn’t at his best, but those three things are why I’d never drag him off.
Lets look at tonight only. He still showed the two best moments of absolute class. The flick and assist fir the penalty and the oh so sexy ball the rough for Che’s chance that was saved.... I’ll hold the goal scorers, sniffing instinct back for now
That flick
