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  1. trundles left foot

    trundles left foot Well-Known Member

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    So my parents are finally having the vaccine tomorrow. Still a bit worried about them having it, not sure of what the benefits are. Apart from it makes them a bit more happy. So whose having it and whose not. Love to know your views and why you may turn it down. I am in the not sure whether I want it bracket. But will if it means I can travel. Just love to know people’s views
     
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  2. neveroffsidereff

    neveroffsidereff Well-Known Member

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    My wife has had the Pfizer jab being an ICU nurse. Her arm hurt for a day or two but no other side effects. My sons partners mother has had the Oxford Astra Zeneca jab and felt sick after it, but in all I think having the jab is a must. I’ll be a bit away from getting it but I have no hesitation to having it.
     
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  3. trundles left foot

    trundles left foot Well-Known Member

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    I am miles from getting it as only 59 in 2 days but can’t get my head around I thought a vaccine would stop you getting a disease but this doesn’t, for my parents I get it as it gives them peace of mind whether it works or not, just know whether it is for me.
     
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    neveroffsidereff Well-Known Member

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    You’ll get it before me then, I’m only 54. :)

    To me it’s a no brainier having it, I hear the horror stories that my wife comes home with. Two patients she looked after on Saturday died. The ICU’s are now not just old people, but all ages. What is apparent is the underlying condition, if you are diabetic etc then get the vaccine it affects people very badly with diabetes.
     
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  5. Matthew Bound Still Lurks

    Matthew Bound Still Lurks Well-Known Member

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    My mum who’s 90 had hers about a fortnight ago , no side effects other than a sore arm for a day, I think in her case it brought some mental relief knowing something positive has happened, it hasn’t changed the family’s attitude in how we keep her safe.The vaccine was never going to be a cure just there to minimise the effect should you catch it much like the annual flu jab.I believe if we want freedom of movement then going forward you’re going to have to prove you’ve been vaccinated so we maybe forced into not having a choice of having it or not
     
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  6. trundles left foot

    trundles left foot Well-Known Member

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    I get it my parents friends and this is where wales are just getting it wrong. They have started vaccinating 79’s along side the older people. My neighbour is 70’s gym every week and fit as a fiddle, her husband early 89’s Alzheimer’s and bone cancer and no offer of a vaccine whilst she has been called to gorseinon for a vaccine. She has refused saying it is all wrong. To vaccinate any catagiry that is ahead of a more vulnerable group in my mind is wrong, just get one catagiry done followed by the next and then the next and maybe I get mine by this time next year
     
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  7. swantastic

    swantastic Well-Known Member

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    My parents get thiers next weekend if it makes them feel safer then that's ok.
    Hopefully being youngish and fit it'll be a while before I get offered it, by then maybe the effectiveness and any latent side effects will be evident plus better versions that are safe and work as other vaccines do will be available.
     
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    trundles left foot Well-Known Member

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    Do you think though we are using our parents and older folk as guinea pigs to make sure it works and is safe. Does worry me
     
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  9. neveroffsidereff

    neveroffsidereff Well-Known Member

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    I don’t think it’s older people as guinea pigs. All the hospitals are giving out the Pfizer jab to its staff manly because they can store it. Nobody that’s had the vaccine with my wife hasn’t had any side effects other than a sore arm. When I get called for my jab, I’ll be off to get it. The hope is the more people having the jab will allow to get back to a bit of normality.
     
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    swantastic Well-Known Member

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    If it's safe and works as we hope then the old and vulnerable should get it first asap.
    But lots of questions haven't been answered whether because they don't know or are gambling that it will be ok ?
     
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  11. Mono

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    I'll be having it - pretty soon as well as I'm still in the 'clinically vulnerable' group.
    I have no worries about it having spoken to quite a few doctors about it, and I have a brother who is a phd involved in molecular biology who has also done his own research into it and he tells me it's safe from what he's found out.

    It may seem fast-tracked, but pretty much most of the countries in the world have made it the highest priority so I'm not surprised by the speed it's been developed.

    My wife works in the NHS and had the first vaccine on 28th December. She had a painful arm for 2 days and had some body aches for a day but after that was back to herself.
     
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  12. trundles left foot

    trundles left foot Well-Known Member

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    But quite a few countries haven’t sanctioned it, sorry to sound like a very anti vaccine. But haven’t been convinced of the benefits. Not sure whether just another government stunt. I am not an anti vaxcer. But am a questioner of. Whether it is a way forward or just another government statement that we all fall behind. For what reason I don’t know, but something nags in the back of my mind and it just won’t go
     
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    I’m having it. What’s the worst that can happen? I’m already fukin trollied. @Rina had his, he looks a lot better for it too

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    My 91 year old father in law had it 2 weeks ago. I hope to have it by the end of March and as soon as I get the call I will be there.
     
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  15. Mono

    Mono Well-Known Member

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    Nothing wrong with being a 'questioner' - everyone should be obligated as citizens to do that. I asked my questions and was happy that what I've been told isn't lies.
    To me it just seems unbelievable to have deceit on such a massive scale. How and for what reason would so many medical professionals all over the globe stand by it (or not fight it) if there was no benefit to it ? To say that it's about money would be such a slur on these people.

    The W.H.O. (talking 'bout my generation) estimates there are between 10 -15 million doctors in the world. That would be some cover up even if only 10% of them were being silenced.

    Thanks to social media, it seems to have become the default position for many to call every single thing that comes from a government total lies.

    BELIEVE

    A quick google search of countries that have actually started vaccinating (not countries who have ok'd it but waiting for the product):

    Argentina

    Belarus, Belgium, Brazil

    Canada, Chile, China, Costa Rica, Croatia, Cyprus, Czech Republic

    Denmark

    Finland

    France

    Germany, Greece

    Hungary

    India, Israel, Italy

    Kuwait

    Malta, Mexico

    Oman

    Poland

    Qatar

    Romania, Russia

    Saudi Arabia, Serbia, Slovakia, Spain, Switzerland, Singapore

    Turkey

    United Arab Emirates, UK, USA

    Even the Arabs and Israel seem to agree on it !!!


     
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    I am 68 in June and have no hesitation in having the vaccine.
     
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  17. daimungeezer

    daimungeezer Well-Known Member

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    There are so many unanswered questions involving this pandemic but I'm not into conspiracy theories so I'll wait and see what revelations finally emerge.

    As to the vaccine, by the time they offer it to me we'll know if there are any side effects or whatever. My daughter's carers are all getting it right now and they've had no side effects apart from one with a tingly arm for a day.
     
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  18. Matthew Bound Still Lurks

    Matthew Bound Still Lurks Well-Known Member

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    I can understand the questioning and I'm by nature a bit cynical. we have a lot of questions to ask especially with the news that some people will make an awful lot of money out of this. Pharmaceutical & technology companies, PPE suppliers, food , Banks , communications such as twitter & face book and on and on . Obviously the profits made have to be measured against the additional costs created by changing working practices but where there becomes a gap created by the loss of a business there's always someone else to step in.
    But back to the main point, I'd like to think that the vaccine will work with no detriment to peoples health,time will tell but at the moment without it we really don't have a lot of choice. One thing with the vaccines the scientists know what's its contents are so any adjustment to mitigate any side effects maybe easily managed .
     
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  19. daimungeezer

    daimungeezer Well-Known Member

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    Another thing is just how effective are the current vaccines. I've heard differing amounts between 30 and 70 percent. My daughter's carers have to have a follow up vaccine in April so how protected are they until then and why is a second one necessary?
     
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  20. trundles left foot

    trundles left foot Well-Known Member

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    Well my parents have now been vaccinated they had the Oxford Astra Zeneca one, not sure what the differences are. They seem happy and 12 weeks till the second one.
     
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