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Discussion in 'Bristol City' started by bcfcredandwhite, Sep 22, 2020.

  1. Redprintt

    Redprintt Well-Known Member

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    I'm happy to listen to Whitty, Vallance, JVT and the like.
    I don't need to answer an anti Vaxxer.
    Research?
    If you think I will believe your understanding of this pandemic then you are seriously deluded.
     
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  2. realred1952

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    my wife works in a care home where the 50 plus residents have been mostly free from covid, I say mostly because 2 have returned from BRI since March, total due to these 2 is 4 in total infected but so far none have had the flu... yesterday they had the Corona jab …. at this time of winter usually 6 or more have been victims of the flu SO I would say the jab has had a resounding effect …… to date I have had no one say they have had the flu … that social net covers N Scotland W Mid Scotland . Aberdeen/ Dundee /Perth/ Stirling /Edinburgh /Peebles / Newton Stewart / Aberyswth/Wakefield/Pontefract / Sheffield / Newark /S Molton / Camelford / Buckfastleigh / Portland / I O W / and Bristol M-S-N Mendips and Buntigford and HASTINGS …. most people I know all had the flu jab including first timer me ……………….
     
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  3. oneforthebristolcity

    oneforthebristolcity Well-Known Member

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    Crack on matey, even they don't know how this will all play out..it's educated guess work...

    Because you struggle to answer the questions, bet you've not even questioned or researched the contents of the vaccines, just happy with whatever they give you!!

    Yes, Research......not just being lazy and listening or watching from one source (the Chinese establishment embrace people like you).
    Not asking you to believe me, just open your eyes.

    IMO...No way will they eradicate this virus, it will be something we will need to learn to live with, for years to come.
    The vaccine is just a form of protection, which should be applied to those that are elderly, vulnerable, key workers & those that want it.
    And then let the rest of us get on with it.
    Not everyone will get the vaccine, there will be new and more strains at some point, they will have to let it go!!
     
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  4. Redprintt

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    Hallelujah - At last.
     
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  5. oneforthebristolcity

    oneforthebristolcity Well-Known Member

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    For those that want it..
    I’m sure if they recommended you to jump the bridge you would ask, how high!!
    Reminds me of a classic game.. Lemmings <laugh><laugh><laugh>
     
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    Those who go off on a tangent have lost the argument.
    Remind me, who said that.
     
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  7. oneforthebristolcity

    oneforthebristolcity Well-Known Member

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    No tangent and no argument lost..
    I’m happy for you to crack on and do as you’re told..
    I will continue to watch it unfold openly and selfishly with the ability to make my own choices!!
     
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    Why do you stop at a red light? Is it because you’re told to or is it because it’s a risk of crashing /getting run over and dying ?
     
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  9. Redprintt

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    Selfish, own it.
     
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  10. oneforthebristolcity

    oneforthebristolcity Well-Known Member

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    No.........Because it's law/road traffic offence to do so ROD, !!
     
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    If selfish, equals questioning vaccines that have only been given the all clear in the matter of weeks with the producers unclear if it reduces transmission or able to combat all other strains of the virus and not 100% effective......Then it's a guilty from me.
    Own it? No question...I will..:emoticon-0148-yes:
     
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    Sorry my head was pickled last night and thought I deleted that comment as only half written.
     
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  13. remembergou

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    If you choose not to get vaccinated then you risk getting struck down, and likely your family, even transmit it to other like minded souls. It is all very confusing, although have had it explained to me.
    The vaccine generates anti bodies for the bodies "bank" when infected it kills the virus. To me this means it can not be transmitted? Yet you hear it said it is an unknown whether it can be transmitted by people who are immune, from previous infection or vaccination!
     
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  14. realred1952

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    it truly is a weird virus
    My family has had 4 out of 5 test positive with symptoms My daughter though yet to prove positive living with them 3 ttests no symptoms … hindsight grandson got it [ along with his dad] 2 weeks after clear mid GD got it 2 weeks after clear eldest GD got it daughter yet to! she is on an epi pen for wasp / bee stings so toss up a vaccination!
     
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    I had a very interesting conversation with an ex colleague earlier today.

    He and his wife had their first vaccination Last Tuesday and on Wednesday they both suffered the known side effects, lethargy (just wanted to sleep) both could taste and smell ok but had no appetite, it lasted 8 hours.

    It would appear from his GP that these symptoms occur with people who have probably had the virus at some stage, people who haven't had the virus don't suffer the same side effects.
     
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    ANOTHER 1200+ death's yesterday [ to Jan 16th ] attributed to the 28 day "tested for " ......…. A LOT OF COUNTRIES are declaring death's attributable to Covid at time of! ..France where most of the population has about 3 - 4 times more space to "hide in" is over 70,000 +
    Test can be anything up to 7 days into the actual infection? so reality is 35 days ago those people got it! However we are now seeing the number passing on from "covid/ covid related are younger. In the past .gov did release regularly figures that intimated "majority" of deaths are amongst those over 70 and AMONGST bame people [ interviews with 40 year old+ / mid aged in this group stating they should be first to get covid jab! ] now it is difficult to find a breakdown, just the occasional comment "it is now affecting the younger elements " more!
    My first week of being a year older has flown by … you are in lockdown so would think things go slow... well before I knew it we were having fish for dinner [ don't know why i say dinner AS IS ALWAYS AFTER 6pm so that was Friday .. the week has seen various around me getting the jab for covid …. the covid centre is less than 3 mins walk and they phone peeps to ask "are you able to come to surgery for a jab … we have spare spaces" next door 1 older 1 younger than me got done Friday … 30 min time window … they got there in 20 mins and done within 5 mins … just my luck to get a call farthest point of my walk … which would be about 45 mins! ….
     
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    I see, the Italian businesses and Restaurants owners are saying bollocks to it all and are re-opening up..
    Rumour has it that the US will do similar once Biden becomes official come Wednesday!! :emoticon-0103-cool:

    Interesting:
    Up to a fifth of staff in some care home groups have refused a coronavirus vaccine when offered, the PA news agency has been told, with suggestions younger workers are more likely to be resistant.

    The majority of care home staff who have been offered the jab are getting vaccinated, but data obtained by PA from a number of providers shows between 5% and 21% of staff offered a vaccine have declined it.

    There is currently no regular data from the NHS or government on how many residents and staff have been given the vaccine, and how many have refused a jab.
     
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    Well most of the homes around here are close to 100% just the night staff where wife works are not 100% all residents are when i see figures of / like 5 -21% makes me think it is sheer guesswork …. a spread of 5% is usual …
     
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    oneforthebristolcity Well-Known Member

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    Well that statement was taken from BBC website so must be right..:emoticon-0103-cool::emoticon-0127-lipss
     
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    you have to train yourself to be aware of how ORGANIZATIONS WORK in an effort to be recognised [ outdo similar organizations ] With BBC you have to look at it being the opposite ... so has to be right! …. [so it is wrong but right again!]:emoticon-0125-mmm::emoticon-0125-mmm:
     
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