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US Election

Discussion in 'The Premier League' started by brb, Aug 13, 2020.

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Who will win?..

  1. Biden

    18.3%
  2. Bobby D

    45.0%
  3. Tobes

    1.7%
  4. China, China, China

    6.7%
  5. Trump

    8.3%
  6. Russia

    6.7%
  7. Dominic Cummings

    3.3%
  8. Other

    10.0%
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  1. Treble

    Treble Keyser Söze

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    Let me guess... he's going to get the Mexicans to pay it.
     
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  4. pieguts

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    Copied this from another site, but IMO it sums him up perfectly.

    “Someone asked "Why do some British people not like Donald Trump?"

    Nate White, an articulate and witty writer from England, wrote this magnificent response:

    "A few things spring to mind.

    Trump lacks certain qualities which the British traditionally esteem.

    For instance, he has no class, no charm, no coolness, no credibility, no compassion, no wit, no warmth, no wisdom, no subtlety, no sensitivity, no self-awareness, no humility, no honour and no grace - all qualities, funnily enough, with which his predecessor Mr. Obama was generously blessed.

    So for us, the stark contrast does rather throw Trump’s limitations into embarrassingly sharp relief.

    Plus, we like a laugh. And while Trump may be laughable, he has never once said anything wry, witty or even faintly amusing - not once, ever.

    I don’t say that rhetorically, I mean it quite literally: not once, not ever. And that fact is particularly disturbing to the British sensibility - for us, to lack humour is almost inhuman.

    But with Trump, it’s a fact. He doesn’t even seem to understand what a joke is - his idea of a joke is a crass comment, an illiterate insult, a casual act of cruelty.

    Trump is a troll. And like all trolls, he is never funny and he never laughs; he only crows or jeers.

    And scarily, he doesn’t just talk in crude, witless insults - he actually thinks in them. His mind is a simple bot-like algorithm of petty prejudices and knee-jerk nastiness.

    There is never any under-layer of irony, complexity, nuance or depth. It’s all surface.

    Some Americans might see this as refreshingly upfront.

    Well, we don’t. We see it as having no inner world, no soul.

    And in Britain we traditionally side with David, not Goliath. All our heroes are plucky underdogs: Robin Hood, Dick Whittington, Oliver Twist.

    Trump is neither plucky, nor an underdog. He is the exact opposite of that.

    He’s not even a spoiled rich-boy, or a greedy fat-cat.

    He’s more a fat white slug. A Jabba the Hutt of privilege.

    And worse, he is that most unforgivable of all things to the British: a bully.

    That is, except when he is among bullies; then he suddenly transforms into a snivelling sidekick instead.

    There are unspoken rules to this stuff - the Queensberry rules of basic decency - and he breaks them all. He punches downwards - which a gentleman should, would, could never do - and every blow he aims is below the belt. He particularly likes to kick the vulnerable or voiceless - and he kicks them when they are down.

    So the fact that a significant minority - perhaps a third - of Americans look at what he does, listen to what he says, and then think 'Yeah, he seems like my kind of guy’ is a matter of some confusion and no little distress to British people, given that:
    * Americans are supposed to be nicer than us, and mostly are.
    * You don't need a particularly keen eye for detail to spot a few flaws in the man.

    This last point is what especially confuses and dismays British people, and many other people too; his faults seem pretty bloody hard to miss.

    After all, it’s impossible to read a single tweet, or hear him speak a sentence or two, without staring deep into the abyss. He turns being artless into an art form; he is a Picasso of pettiness; a Shakespeare of ****. His faults are fractal: even his flaws have flaws, and so on ad infinitum.

    God knows there have always been stupid people in the world, and plenty of nasty people too. But rarely has stupidity been so nasty, or nastiness so stupid.

    He makes Nixon look trustworthy and George W look smart.

    In fact, if Frankenstein decided to make a monster assembled entirely from human flaws - he would make a Trump.

    And a remorseful Doctor Frankenstein would clutch out big clumpfuls of hair and scream in anguish:

    'My God… what… have… I… created?

    If being a twat was a TV show, Trump would be the boxed set."
     
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  5. Archers Road

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    Isn’t that the favoured business practice of organised criminals everywhere? Known in this country as the “long firm” scam; set up a fake company with a convincing front but no substance. Open lines of credit everywhere, keep rinsing it til the credit all runs dry, burn a couple of warehouses for the insurance, default on the remaining debt.

    It was the mainstay of the Richardsons and the Krays, and also of the New York mob. A version of it is portrayed in Casino when the local Trattoria owner turns to Pauly the wiseguy to rescue his business. Trump just finessed it a little, to keep the right side of the law. Maybe
     
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  6. PINKIE

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    I read that a few months ago somewhere.

    Brilliant and accurate portrayal <ok>
     
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  7. pompeymeowth

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    Abridged version, he's a ****.
     
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  8. PINKIE

    PINKIE Wurzel Gummidge

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    Perfect summary
     
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    That was Goodfellas. I know because I watch that film whenever it is on telly (a lot), on Netflix or in work on my memstick. I think I've even watched it more than The Life of Brian and Apollo 13. And Istanbul. <cool>
     
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    Yeah, my bad. Goodfellas. All the mobsters run up tabs they have no intention of paying, the restaurant owner turns to Pauly in despair, and Pauly "reluctantly" agrees to take a share in the business.
     
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  13. Treble

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    Shakespeare of **** <laugh>

    Genuinely laugh out loud.
     
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  14. Big Ern

    Big Ern Lord, Master, Guru & Emperor

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    lol, apparently he's stealing art from the WH.
    What did Russell Brand do to Obama?
     
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    Thought Charles Manson was dead ... <whistle>
     
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    Did anyone see the lawyer for that horn-helmeted, QANON twat last night on Cuomo Prime Time? As much as anything else, the LOL moment had to be when his lawyer said his client had been invited into the The Capitol Building and was 'unarmed'. 'But he had a 6ft spear?' retorted Cuomo. 'That's ceremonial - he's a registered shaman', explained the attorney.

    'A registered shaman'. FFS.

    :emoticon-0136-giggl
     
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  17. Prince Knut

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    It's after the scene where Tommy smashes him over the head with a bottle, just after 'You think I'm a clown? You think I'm here to amuse you?'. :mad:
     
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  18. Commachio

    Commachio Rambo 2021

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    Strangely enough, on a lazy afternoon, for some reason i ended up watch 2 docs on Watergate (i've heard about it many times, but never understood it)
     
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    I downloaded the film Nixon with Anthony Hopkins in last night. 3 hours long. Worth a watch and very relevant. The parallels are staggering.
     
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    Nixon was a far better President than Trump, though. Total ****bag and a crook, but he actually did some good.

    The fallout from Watergate took American politics to where it is now.
    Fox News was created to protect any future Nixon and the likes of Roger Stone have been plotting in the background ever since.
    The decision to pardon Nixon arguably resulted in the antics of Trump, as it set the tone for what a President would be allowed to get away with.
     
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