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I had a similar dilemma, I didn't want it but couldn't vote for Corbyn!

 

Wrong - absolutely wrong.
My one claim to fame was l galvanised my neighbours in a local election Hendon ward and the then current leader of the labour council lost his seat.
As l said l do lean to the left in my outlook but l know in local elections a few dozen (new) votes can cause upset so few due to APATHY.
I also believe a lot (not you) - say ‘ah but the other lot are sh;t as well’ are really saying ‘l can’t be bothered’ - Apathy.
KTF

 

Many of these comments reflect our outdated first past the post voting system which was fine when we had the Whigs and the Tories and more latterly the Tories and Labour but now, with a number of credible parties we need a PR system but neither of the big parties will sanction a system which doesn't have an inbuilt bias for one or other of them to get power and so many of the smaller parties get nowhere cos people see them as a wasted vote.

 

Oh no! You aren't called Trump are you? FAKE photos eh!

 

I believe that SOME of the photos that I've seen on Twitter are fake, yes. Intended to whip an already serious issue up to a state of hysteria. Like I have said, I don't buy the myth that all on the left are good and all on the right are evil. I believe that there are unscrupulous people on both sides of the debate who, for some reason, want to cause further division and further polarisation. I believe if more people took the middle ground and the media (in whatever form) gave a more balanced view, more would get done and there would be less discontent.

 

??? Are saying that Boris & his henchmen have more in common with a working fella from the NE than the labour party ??
You should listen to the debate within the L. P. Where K Starmer is open veiwed as a right wing Blairite clone. !!!!!!

 

The Brexit decision was made 4 yrs ago gha last election just over 1 yr.
You could have had your cake and eaten it.

 

But what did Corbyn, who was privately educated and grew up in 17th century manor house, have in common with the common working fella from the NE?

 

Nobody attacked the the decent tax paying employees of these companies. Why the need to be defencive?

 

I don't. It's the absolute desperate pits to pull the well , it could have been worse bullshit. It's foundless and based on absolutely **** all as there's no history of fair comparison.they didn't get in, they got their way. They can try to blame or draw comparison from a defeated party till the cows come home. It doesn't hold weight to anybody with half a brain. It this simple, Corbyn lost. That makes him unaccountable for everything as they never got in the position to be accountable. People who trot out this **** don't bother me. I pity them and laugh at their deluded blinked way of thinking, but it doesn't bother me.

Cobyn's pan was fully costed. Thick Tories believed the country was skint. Now the Tories print money for their mates. Anybody with a brain and an onc of decency would say fair play they were had. But know, they side step shamelessly while still trying to blame poor Jezza. Let them crack on. Delutionl fools, they should be men ad take some responsibility for their vote. Tories are Tories though. Not an ounce of Shame between them imo.

 

So we've gone from blaming the losing oposition to blaming the losing oposition's family. You can make up such stupid ****. And I like my words carefully. It just ****ing stupid


You wouldn't think the current PMs father has just applied for french citizenship having supported his sons Brexit campaign but hey ho, let's attack a hippy delutionl brother of the loser to make my point on a political opinion which involves ELECTED OFFICIALS.

 

If only the social media platforms employed fact checkers across the board to make sure what goes trough their sites is 100% true. Oh wait up they do!

****in fake news consipiricies now have day off mate, too much crazy in one burst draws dodgy attention

 

With the benefit and social housing system in place. Why do the children need these school meals?

A genuine question.

 

Maybe cause Tories sold the social housing off(assisted by a right leaning labour) and didn't build anymore.

Benifits? Well wages dont reflect living wage required to live in te black so why would benifits? Don't forget, most benifits claimed in this country is by working households living in privately rented accommodation.

 

The right wanted a reduction in social policy all it's served is a way to drag working families into the povity line while making the already rich richer. Proven failure. First pandemic comes along and the country crumbles as the right scramble desperately to install rushed social policy to keep the country going under. Almost poetic.

 

To me, something don’t add up.

I know the property market well, and I know what the council tenants are entitled to, in both housing allowance and living benefit allowance.

Council tenants will have their rent paid for them, they will then be given money for themselves and their children to live.

I think the problem lays with what the parents are choosing to spend the money on.

They claim to lack food to feed their children. But I bet they don’t lack a TV or a phone, and in some cases a box of fags.

The system is over generous and is abused by families who hammer out kids with no thought of how they will pay for them.

Instead of giving these families money, how about give them food vouchers. Let’s see how many kids go hungry then.

 

Can't find the figure for families in social housing(if you can provide please do as I'm intreagued)

But I think you're focusing on a minority. 5million social homes in which a person is entitled to earn as much as they like. Add to that elderly taking up homes that's bring the figures down.

There is far more private renting families as there's just more homes available than there is social housing. I don't rent anymore thank ****ing christ cause that rent shortfall while unable to work ****ing crippled me financially.

I would dare say that those in social housing on benifits are far more better off than private renters on benifits. But like I say, there's far more renting privately. Those privately renting in high cost living areas like london on benifits or working minimum wage with a family are 100% living in poverty imo.

I reckon a family on benifits living in social housing in the north east are quite comfortable thanks to the geography.

 

Plot thickens

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Because someone mentioned it goes beyond politics and I am not talking about myself. We are the biggest FM provider to Government contracts since we acquired Interserve, that’s what I meant by “we aren’t all that bad”.

 

I haven't talked about fake news conspiracies though. I've talked about people taking something that contains a kernel of the truth and presenting a more extreme version of it whip up hysteria. Twitter's fact checking is far from perfect and is only a newly implemented system. Furthermore, why would you believe everything you see on a platform like Twitter without questioning it?
People clearly do 'elaborate' on the truth to suit their own political ends (such as suggesting that the husbands of certain politicians are arms dealers when in reality they are investment bankers) and that is both wrong and dangerous.