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  1. Ringo Lion

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    Lardiman well done, that's the most biased sensationalist piece of writing that would be fit to grace the pages of any of the MSM <laugh>
     
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    REally? In what way? The Russian news agencies are revelling in what is happening, likewise Iran. There are truths and there are untruths, and Trump has been peddling untruths, or do you not agree?
     
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  3. lardiman

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    Thank you. I'm as mainstream as they come.

    For a while I liked some of the things Trump was trying to do, like protect the jobs of American workers and stand up to China.
    I daresay that if it was not for the Coronavirus pandemic, he may well have edged the 2020 Election and be in for another 4 years.
    But I'm afraid he has handled the pandemic in the US very poorly.
    And in general since 2016 Trump has made no effort whatsoever to build bridges or unite his country.

    You can get away with being divisive if your policies are seen to be successful.
    Margaret Thatcher proved that.
    But when events go against you, divisiveness and the language of conflict and hate don't make others inclined to help you out.
    Add in the disinformation, contempt for mainstream news media and the feeding of fringe paranoia to undermine democracy, and you have what we see happening now.
     
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  4. Ringo Lion

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    They are all liars Penguin and in the rare instances where they are actually being truthful we are suspicious and revert to the default setting of branding them liars.
     
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    None of them are as brazen as Trump, by a very long way. I'm not too prissy about lying as a rule, but when someone lies, you know they are lying they know that you know, yet they still keep on lying I find that hard to take. That's more like Putin, or the Chinese government, or Iran, or Venezuela, or North Korea, not an American President. There's no reason to believe that Joe Biden lies like that, and America being the leaders of the free world Trump'sbehaviour is extremely concerning.
     
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    I have previously referred to the writing of David Cole, a right-leaning columnist who is not afraid to call stupidity or hypocrisy wherever he finds it.

    He absolutely slams those who protested in Washington in this article:

    https://www.takimag.com/article/well-that-went-great/

    I recommend it.
     
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    Very good article, but I wish he would speak his mind.
     
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    Yes, he does rather beat about the bush ...
     
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    There's nothing like it<laugh>
     
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    A bird in hand is worth 2 in the bush, or so I've heard.
     
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    Glory to God! :emoticon-0131-angel

    Looks like the Donald has a bible-thumping, gun-toting Mini-Me in Congress...

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    Man throws out old computer hard drive in 2013...
    Now he realises it had Bitcoins on it, and they're worth £210 million :emoticon-0164-cash: :emoticon-0164-cash: :emoticon-0164-cash:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-55658942

    What a muppet! <laugh>

    He wants his local council to help him find the hard drive in a landfill site <doh>
    I wouldn't be surprised if an army of treasure hunters descends on the site and starts digging it up.
    Nasty... :emoticon-0132-envy:
     
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    Trump's legacy...

    Biden inauguration: All 50 US states on alert for armed protests

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-55689840

    If there is more violent anarchy, destruction and loss of life, Donald Trump may find himself impeached by the Senate and banned from office for the rest of his life. And I would imagine that will only be the start of the prosecutions aimed at him.

    Threats of violence on this scale never happen during the transition of power in the United States.
    This entire situation, like the storming of the Capitol Building, is a unique set of circumstances contrived deliberately over months (if not years) by one man.
    A man who decided it was right to sustain a long running campaign of lies and attacks on the integrity of democracy in the US, rather than concede defeat in a manifestly free and fair election. The most secure and well regulated election in the world.

    Right now there may be only one or two Republican Senators willing to back the impeachment (17 are needed for it to pass).
    But if there is a wave of violence across many States - if innocent people or Police officers are attacked, hurt or even killed during the next week, a huge majority of the decent, law-abiding people of America will lay the blame at the feet of soon-to-be Ex-President Trump, and that part of the Republican Party which is still seen to support his extremism.

    Under those circumstances the number of Republican Senators willing to see Trump impeached (even if only to save their own political careers) could well increase beyond 17.


    These online threats of violence might be overblown.
    But the FBI and other security agencies cannot just assume that. Not in the wake of what happened in Washington DC.

    And I think it is now too late for even Trump himself to exert any calming influence.
    Even if he abandoned all of his fraud claims and disowned them as always being false, the people he has unleashed won't listen.
    They'd claim he is being coerced, or has betrayed them.

    Whatever is going to happen between now and the end of next week, will happen regardless.
    Peaceful people can only hope against hope that nobody else is killed before it's over.
     
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    Maybe Trump will go on telly to announce that he's been lying all along, sorry suckers for believing an old fraud. Then all his fans will say, that's ok Donald, nobody's perfect, we've had a good time.
     
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    Sadly, more likely he will use the White House twatter account to tweet a couple more feeble messages about not wanting any violence (oh, the irony) and then go and play some golf somewhere - though not in Scotland.

    I heard his daughter Ivanka wants to attend Biden's Inauguration <laugh>
    Kids can really turn the screw on their parents when they want to...

    Also I heard that Trump might be preparing pardons for himself and everyone else in his family - except his wife.
    A pre-emptive strike in what may soon be the messiest divorce in history :emoticon-0153-broke
     
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    The Government is looking at new laws to protect statues and monuments from violent mobs <ok>

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-55693020

    I thoroughly approve of this. Mass protesting is not a problem (in non-pandemic times) but there is a line between expressions of opposition / anger, and mobs damaging property. Even the very minor damage done inside the Valley after the brief occupation of the stadium last summer was wrong, and it detracted from the force of the message sent to the crooks of ESI by Charlton fans.

    However, I would not include a sofa in the definition of precious national monuments <laugh>
    7th May 2016 :emoticon-0165-muscl
     
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