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Off Topic Trump supporters breaching Capitol Hill in Washington DC

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  1. Makemstine Roger

    Makemstine Roger Well-Known Member

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    no idea the eye witness says 5 mins ago, it just came up on the news channel, thought it would be of interest ,i know last week some one took a **** in the same spot could it be that your thinking of maybe, i'm going by what the broadcast says
     
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  2. Makemstine Roger

    Makemstine Roger Well-Known Member

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    yet joe and Hunter Biden get off scot free when they took money from Russia Ukraine and China proven by his lap top yet trump never took a penny in pay from being president and gave it to charity
     
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  3. Makemstine Roger

    Makemstine Roger Well-Known Member

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    yes your right Antifa at the federal courthouse Portland but if your referring to Washington please keep up with the news the Antifa people are coming up now wanted by the feds for that,
     
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    Without taking sides - the point I tried to make was the difference of intent (and action) and the preparedness and application of policing of both protests.
    Nothing more. KTF
     
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    safc-noggieland Well-Known Member

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    To make it clear l am comparing protests in DC.
     
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    News item on BBC dated 3rd Jan. Pelosi and Mitchell McConnell House vandalised
    Sorry can't link
    Edit https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-55518151
    Edit link to CNN it was about the $2,000 stimulus payment
    https://edition.cnn.com/2021/01/02/politics/mcconnell-pelosi-homes-vandalized/index.html
     
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  7. Makemstine Roger

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    thanks for the heads up mate ill check it


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    See my post above managed to link a couple of sites, hope that helps
     
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  9. Draig

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    Roger, by this are you simply meaning that Trump never took his presidential salary?

    If so, you have to factor in to that things like how much he made out of staying at Mar a Lago and Trump resorts, with Secret Service and other staff being billed for their rooms and having to pay top whack - https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...ght-secret-service-staff-charge-a9323631.html

    Then there are the meetings with foreign leaders held there, including the Japanese PM, President of China and President of Brazil, instead of at Camp David
     
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  10. Makemstine Roger

    Makemstine Roger Well-Known Member

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    hi mate thank you for the reply every president before him took a salary plus the security chefs food transport . have to factor in camp David costs fact is when you deduct his salary from the final figs the Gov made a killing. while he was saving money Joe Biden was filling his pockets but no one wants to pull that up as there is to much proof to hang him. Don't get me wrong in not a big lover of Trump as a person, but by god he pulled the USA up by its boot straps, and the country needed a president that took no ****, Biden wont last long as soon as more proof comes out and the MSM cant hide his fiddling anymore he will hand over to Harris, who will be bullied by the far left, sell everything to China, did you know Hillary Clinton and her foundation bought up the weapons grade plutonium mines and sold them to Russia
     
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    And how do you know the broadcaster is reliable? He had a history of spin for commercial gain. His pitch to buy some gold coins is a bit cheap:

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ch...ajfeqvhk5b7daj2b2ii-story.html?outputType=amp
     
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  12. Makemstine Roger

    Makemstine Roger Well-Known Member

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    there is a book on amazon about obamas cost
    The 1.4 Billion Dollar Man: Costs of the Obama White House Kindle Edition


    When President Barack Obama took First Lady Michelle Obama for a "date night" to New York City for dinner and a show, the tab cost American taxpayers $1 million.

    Expensive date? Not really. After all, the Obama family spends about $9 million in taxpayer funds every year on their annual vacation to Hawaii, and it costs $711,000 for each night spent at Camp David.

    But these charges are just a drop in the bucket. In total, Barack Obama has spent about $1.4 billion in household expenses each year since he became president, and this figure does NOT include the cost of running the White House’s policy operations – doing the job he was elected to perform.

    The Obama White House is the most fiscally irresponsible in the history of the US presidency. In this scorching indictment of the spending habits of Barack Obama and his administration, author John F. Groom documents the president’s extravagant disregard for the value of taxpayers' money.

    It's an arena of unfathomable excess and waste.

    While Obama positions himself as a champion of the middle class and foe of Wall Street, the fact is that he lives a taxpayer-funded lifestyle that few if any moguls could afford. He is at the very top 1% of the 1%.

    Obama promised “a new era of openness in government" when he came into office, but his own expenses are shrouded from public discovery, spread among numerous non-White House budget accounts, particularly under the Department of Defense.
     
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  13. Makemstine Roger

    Makemstine Roger Well-Known Member

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    he is independent , show me a tv company in America that doesn't advertise. including those you have been reading.the first part the western fires was story was an Antifa check it out you have his name would you like more, he was also done for theft from a gas station, try other american tv stations as MSM only hate Trump, look at the Biden's and Ukraine money

     
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  14. Makemstine Roger

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    these are 2 of the 4 Antifa members who started the fires while he was a serial arsonist he was also a member of Antifa

     
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    You know that's not true and yet you keep repeating it...

    A Nissan Europe spokesman said Ariya production has been planned at the automaker's factory in Japan's Tochigi prefecture north of Tokyo "for several years." Japan production was confirmed in July when the Ariya was unveiled, the spokesman told Automotive News Europe.

    Nissan denies it chose Japan production for Ariya EV over UK amid Brexit worries (autonews.com)

    I don't think anybody with a brain would vote for Labour but that's because I vote blue...

    'Unmitigated disaster' = Finally beat the MP's who were trying to go against democracy and overturn the Brexit result after years of deadlock.
    'Unmitigated disaster' = Becoming the first country in the world to roll out a vaccine program and up until yesterday we had more people vaccinated than all of the EU countries put together.
     
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    your welcome to look for it yourself. May be more than 5 now, but was 5 when I last checked
     
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  18. Nordic

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    Rog, If you choose to believe Mr Franchi, fill your boots. I don't.

    Why would I want to know more about some horrible arsonists? It goes without saying the likes of Antifa & the Proud Boys have more than their fair share of scumbags & undesirables. All radical groups do, and I've never cared for either.

    Have you read the book by John F Groom, as I see he has published an updated version a few month ago, adding an extra 0.4 billion to the tab. Does this include a comparison with the Trump administration and previous presidencies?
     
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    Firstly, you are wrong about Trump, he isn't the first US President not to take his salary He is the 4th After JFK (who famously also didn't take a salary for the entire 14 years that he served in Congress before becoming President), there was also Herbert Hoover and George Washington (who also didn't take a salary while leading the Congressional Armed Forces).

    We'll see more when his presidential expenses and tax returns are made public. However, one thing that jumps straight out is that Camp David costs are essentially recycling public money back to the public. Fortnightly stays at a Trump Golf Resort and numerous stays at Mar a Lago are a cycling of public money straight into Donald Trump's business pockets. as Trumps presidential salary is something like $400k so $1.6 million would easily be recouped from the spend at Trump properties - and these include things like his overnight stay at his Doonbeg hotel and golf resort when he met the Irish PM on his way back from his British State Visit in June 2019 (rather than going to Dublin).

    I don't care what other' American Presidents have spent and to be honest I don't think the Americans themselves do, but I have doubts about how much he did to turn the US economy around - the post 2008 crash recovery trend was well entrenched under Obama as you can see in the link underneath.

    Trump threw some weight about, renegotiating NAFTA seemed to go well and China definitely needed some economic reality, I don't know if his bleating about NATO contributions made any impression upon Americans and pulling out of the Paris Climate Agreement did nothing for the American economy. But pulling out of the World Health Organisation in an attempt to shift blame for the Covid-19 pandemic and its effects upon America didn't work and really hurt American prestige.

    I may be wrong but I think it will be the last two will be seen as the historical landmarks of Trump's presidency, along with the policy of separation of minors from parents among detained illegal immigrants and his actions in trying to overturn the result of the presidential election (including the storming of Congress)

    What happens under Biden really doesn't bother me either, I just want to see better health cover for the average American and better response to the pandemic.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-45827430
     
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    Officer Brian D. Sicknick

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