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S.A.F.C. - the future

Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by alan reed, Jul 24, 2020.

  1. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    There was absolutely no need to 'issue a statement' at all.

    Whatever the case they're supposed to reflect the wishes and mood of the supporters, not decide for themselves what needs to be said.

    In this case they're totally wrong so should reflect the mood of the supporters and retract the statement in my opinion ...

    ... they seem to have decided that being elected gives them the right to say whatever they choose until they're voted out.

    They've made a big mistake with this.
     
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  2. Oliver's Army

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    Won't it then just become and endless turnover of people on the committee? Better to consult members on big issues (like the first statement about a new billionaire owner) rather than get a rushed statement out quickly surely?

    5 people is 0.02% of the 23k season ticket holders from last season.

    Safc.com say they have over 900k followers in Twitter and over 1.6million followers on Facebook so God knows what % 5 people are of those numbers.

    The statement doesn't sit right with me, the amount of times 'the fans' and 'we' are mentioned, bearing in mind the numbers I've mentioned above I think it could have been better worded. :emoticon-0148-yes:
     
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  3. Alebeac

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    Absolutely , I struggle to understand their motives, we have been desperate for someone to buy off SD. To have some so called fan group that doesn’t represent me to create a potentially bad atmosphere at the onset between fans and the new owner reprehensible.
    Let’s hope RAWA have a rethink about their actions.
     
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  4. Norman Stanley Fletcher

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    Cracking result today and a hell of a boost to their confidence especially after the draw with City. This is what Allardyce does. He keeps it simple and gets his players playing to their strengths ( or capabilities ). He puts square pegs in square holes and doesn’t over complicate things. It will take a few games but the players will get to understand their job and he will turn things around. It will be interesting to see who he brings in in January.
     
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  5. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    I think you should mate. As far as I can see we have no demands and the way they choose to run the club is their business imo. What will RAWA do, or say, if they don't think the plans come up to their expectations?

    But what I'd really like to know is who they've made things clear to and how?

    If it's sending out statements to the local press I think they're getting carried away. The big news is the takeover, the new owner and the staff he's bringing in. It seems that RAWA want to be the news which sadly happens when a group of people over estimate their own importance.

    Not being rude but we shouldn't even be talking about RAWA at this time, in my honest opinion.
     
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  6. Julio

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    We have probably been equally as rich in the past under Short but we have never been equally ambitious. I just have this really great feeling this lad is in it for the long run and is not going to make any of the mistakes Short did. KLD sounds like he understands football and the need to have good footballing people around him. Short surrounded himself with clowns and it was the downfall of him and this football club
     
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  7. Southern A

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    It’s as I said yesterday. I know they mean well and want what is best for the club. And they exist to ensure supporters’ voices are heard.

    Unfortunately they’ve got so used to challenging the ownership that they’ve forgotten it’s not just their job to be sceptics and challenging.

    They’re supposed to be a supporters club but instead are becoming more like ownership auditors. Like they’re the “official opposition” to the party in power. They want what is best for the club and in the past that has required challenging the ownership. It doesn’t require that though until that’s what is needed. Rather than just assume they should.

    I’ll add the statement really wasn’t necessary and whether they intended it or not, really looks like they just wanted their voices heard.

    The reality is probably more likely as GG says that they wanted to welcome the owner but then put in a bit to show they’re not naive, to placate a group of fans who will want them to be all over KLD. It’s just a shame that they’ve decided to do that in their welcoming statement
     
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  8. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    Nail on the head really mate, just don't keep implying you have the entire fanbase backing your statements.
     
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  9. Ozzymac

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    If anything the first statement made by any fans group in relation to a new owner should be a warm welcoming statement without a demand in sight.

    In reality owners don't need to inform the fans of anything at all so making demands is ridiculous to say the least.

    I know if i was a new owner such a statement would probably get my back up. After all the fans have been clamouring for SD to sell so for all we know KLD may now be thinking "I've done the fans a favour and bought SD out and already they are making demands, i wonder if it's worth it"

    Someone needs to have a good think about statements that RAWA put out and the timing of them.
     
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  10. Dunder Mifflin

    Dunder Mifflin Well-Known Member

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    So, when’s the next takeover? Having withdrawals already.
     
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  11. John Wick

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    Seen a headline in the Echo of one of the supporters groups pretty much telling the new owner what "we" expect. Not me, let the bloke get through the front door. Already started the right way with the re structure of the club and he isn't even here yet. Bloke needs time and itll not be an over night fix imo
     
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  12. Vincemac

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    I would be unhappy also
     
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  13. Southern A

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    tbh KLD seems switched on. The fans are what attracted him to the club, he knows where we are and he knows we shouldn’t be. I don’t think he’ll bat an eyelid at the statement.

    I’m only frustrated by it as I know it will continue to fan the flames with the dissenting fan base. It will continue to encourage supporters to be dissecting and second guessing every statement he makes, every decision or appointment. And frankly there will be some fans who won’t give him a chance as they’ll see him as the guy who was willing to keep Donald and Methven around.

    The fan base need to get 1000% behind the new regime. And reminding the fans that the owner might need to be held to account before he’s even become the owner is just going to create doubt and the beginnings of distrust.
     
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  14. John Wick

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    Seen a few "why Sunderland?" things floating about. Now if it were a London based club, not an eye brow raised. It's always been the same. I'm no sympathiser, not by a long road, but I believe the Mags were shafted out of their takeover. There's the North South divide, then theres the Northeast, North south divide.
     
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    RAWA need to be careful not to fall into the trap that some of the fanzine/podcasters did and assume they speak for the fans

    There's an Orwellian feel to this

    "We will let him know that support will continue and grow if he attempts to meet the standards and ambitions befitting of a club of our stature and history."

    They don't ****ing speak for me
     
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  16. Billy Batts

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    Agreed.
     
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  17. alan reed

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    Don’t speak for me either
     
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  18. 6inarow

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    Tbh I have got absolutely no problem with the RAWA going in hard and fast with a new owner. Welcome to the club (which they've said) but as fans we are not going to fall for any bullshit (which we have all fallen for, for the last 2 years).....been soft and welcoming the unknown has left us 3 seasons in league one, we are doing the exact same in essence now just beacuase himself and his family are worth billions. Now I'm as positive as anyone for the new takeover but I have no problem sticking this straight on his lap....do we all just want to sit back and be kicked and kicked again like the last few years or do we want to see action? We have no time for a honeymoon period or a couple of months settling in...the action needs to start now and he need to know this. Fair play to them I say
     
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  19. Smug in Boots

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    Sorry mate, I just couldn't agree less with all of that.

    'Go in hard and fast' on what basis?

    How can you tell anything is bullshit until it's given a reasonable time to succeed or fail?
     
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  20. 6inarow

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    Thing is tho Smug....who is speaking for us as the conduit to the club? The answer is them, the RAWA....we are all happy with the takeover but he has got to know in uncertain terms how desperately unhappy every single one of the fans are and the pressure needs to be put on top of him from the outset
     
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