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Off Topic Coronavirus - 606 tales from the Inquiry

Discussion in 'Charlton' started by lardiman, Feb 25, 2020.

  1. The Pub Landlord

    The Pub Landlord Well-Known Member

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    Every virus has to.

    A virus that kills its host is inefficient. The 1918 virus is still with us but has adapted.
     
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  2. The Penguin

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    This virus looks set to have a very merry festive season indeed.
     
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    Am ignoring the government and instead of cooking for fifteen people it will only be people in my bubble, which is six. I think there will be a huge spike in Covid cases after Christmas. I notice already in Bexley the amount of Covid cases has doubled. My niece is a professional actress and she got a part as an Elf entertaining Kids. Unfortunately she has contacted Covid, she got it from Santa Claus who has infected a large number of people. You couldn’t make it up.
     
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  4. The Penguin

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    I can't believe how reckless some families are this Christmas, including members who are extremely vulnerable. Even when the vaccine becomes available the proportion of people who will refuse to take it is shockin, juss shockin. Happy smiling Covid19<nahnah>.
     
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  5. lardiman

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    I heard recently the vaccine uptake may be 75 to 80% among white folks, but maybe only 50% in some BAME communities.
    These are the same communities said to be most at risk of serious COVID19 symptoms, for various reasons.

    Excuses given in a radio interview included the belief that God was protecting one woman from the virus.
    A man said he wouldn't want the vaccine because of the chip inside it.
    When asked where he had heard the vaccine contained a chip, he said Instagram.

    A very, very large number of BAME people work on the front line in NHS hospitals and care homes.
    How many of them believe their personal health is guaranteed by God, or that the vaccine contains a chip?
    Just about none of them.
    Because they are hard working, dedicated and sensible folk, most of whom are well (or at least adequately) educated too.
    Why are their own communities not listening to them?

    I give up on stupid people - of any colour or creed - who just will not listen.
    All this suffering and hardship, then after a massive global effort the solution is found and offered for free - yet still millions will not accept it.
    Let them stew then.
     
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  6. The Penguin

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    C4 conducted a series of interviews asking people whether or not they would take the vaccine. 100% of white people said they would , 100% of non-white said they wouldn't. I have no explanation.
     
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  7. lardiman

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    Maybe a small sample?

    Three or four interviews of persons from each group might easily produce a result like that.
    Twenty interviews of each group would be much less likely to do so.

    Or it could just be Channel 4 being Channel 4. I wouldn't trust anything remotely political that I hear from them.
     
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  8. The Penguin

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    I always watch C4 News. It's got depth, and I hope this doesn't start a row.
     
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  9. lardiman

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    Not with me, no worries.
    I stick with the BBC - which I know isn't everybody's cup of tea either, but (a few minor glitches aside) I trust it.

    Of course I'm just waiting for Trump to launch his News network, which I'm sure will be a shining beacon of truth <laugh>
     
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  10. The Penguin

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    The BBC's impartiality code needs to be looked at. They are obliged to give equal weight to both sides, regardless of whether or not one side is codswollop. Factcheckers would help.
     
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    What has happened to Moonshot, the government's program of mass testing? THis is a genuine question, not a criticism.
     
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    Who would decide which side is talking 'codswollop' ?
     
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    Factcheckers.
    Twice they have had climatologists on, followed by Nigel Lawson to state that the planet is not warming up, without contradiction.
     
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    It's an impractical dream. A couple of weeks ago I did an exercise to work out how many man hours would be required to vaccinate the entire population working on a 10-minute turnaround. Also how many staff would be needed at a turnaround of, say, 50 per day per nurse injecting 1 every 10 minutes per 8-hour day. Also how many vaccination centres would need to be fitted out in every big city.

    I gave up during that last part, but it's basically impossible to get this done in under two years.

    Other side issues arise. For example, do illegal immigrants qualify for NHS innoculations? If so, being BAME in the main, are they given precedence? Will they be rounded up when they attend a centre?
     
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    Where will you find neutral factcheckers?
     
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    They should be able to distinguish between facts and alternative facts like Lawson's.
     
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  17. lardiman

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    Political correctness and the stifling of plain language is also partly responsible for the whole mess surrounding truth and fiction.
    Nobody dares call a spade a spade anymore.

    Alternative facts are lies.
    People like Lawson and Trump are liars.
     
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    Before Aristotle people thought the earth was flat and Aristotle suggested it was round, at the time he was considered a bit of a heretic especially to the Church .... so I ask again... where do you find neutral factcheckers?
     
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    Alternative facts may be actual facts that have not yet gained general approval?
     
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  20. Miketyson2007Junior

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    Sorry I'm going to be pedantic, I think you mean Galileo - Aristotle lived and died before Christianity existed!

    Galileo was threatened for arguing that the Earth revolved around the Sun.
     
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