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Off Topic Covid 19 restrictions have done one

Discussion in 'Hull City' started by dennisboothstash, Oct 29, 2020.

  1. Ron Burguvdy

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    Seem a much better sauce than the ONS and them scientificics, look they've even got it spot on about T-Rump...
     
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    I'll take the Official For National Statistics figures, over some random bloke on Twitter, thanks.
     
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    Yeah agree, anyone would think that official figures and statements dont fit in with peoples agendas ?
     
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    Put a 'G' between the I and the E and a lot of people in this city will be happy.
     
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    Ok well this is from ONS figures....same conclusion though, similar death rate to previous years

     
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    Excess deaths this year are up 60,000 on the five year average, that’s a big increase by any measure.
     
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    It just shows how useless the experts are. All we had to do is tell it Christmas lasts for 52 weeks, et voila, bug gered off. It's a single cell thingy-my-bob.
     
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    The above graph was from this thread...

     
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    For every COVID death, there are many more patients who end up in intensive care, end up with Long COVID, having strokes or permanent lung damage.

    I do think the COVID death rate now isn’t as high as it was in spring, which is a good thing. But death isn’t the only reason COVID is a problem for many people.
     
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    The number they managed in the first week.
     
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    Whoooosh.
     
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    so death rates are down
    has anyone thought how many lives have been saved by a lot of the uk's workforce sat at home for 3 months? or longer in some cases?

    less accidents at work, road accidents and less stress related health issues
     
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    Yep, which unless 'the bleedin obvious' is now news, it's hardly informative is it?
     
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    Not as many as the lives lost through missed cancer sreenings for one or the estimated by Unicef 168,000 children that will die of starvation or the estimated 10 million under 5's that will suffer malnutrition around the world because of lockdowns.

    Are you really being serious that theres less stress related issues when theres a rise in suicides and attempts.

    https://www.post-gazette.com/news/w...conomy-UNICEF-World-Bank/stories/202012140124

    https://www.prnewswire.co.uk/news-r...next-two-years-due-to-covid-19-891864737.html

    "National Child Mortality Database has identified a concerning signal that deaths by suicide among under 18s may have increased during the first phase of lockdown in the UK."
    https://www.bmj.com/content/371/bmj.m4352
     
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    There’s going to be deaths, it’s **** all round.

    Thing is though, hunger is not an infectious disease. The fact that children suffer malnutrition in 2020 is a horrendous indictment on our society and it should not be happening, COVID or not. Solutions are available, they just need the political will to make them happen. We can’t blame COVID for them not happening.

    Mental health and suicides are more difficult to deal with as I suspect this is one area of healthcare that really does need face to face interactions. Mental Health services were already under resourced, especially so for CAMHS. I suspect the state of the mental health system is such that COVID is pushing it to breaking point, but again, the solutions to improve it are out there, just needing resources and political will to make them happen.

    tl;dr COVID is happening now with no cure and prevention the only solution. Malnutrition and mental health are ticking time bombs that can be fixed if the will is there to do so. It is possible to do both, it’s not either/or.
     
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