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Off Topic Covid 19 restrictions have done one

Discussion in 'Hull City' started by dennisboothstash, Oct 29, 2020.

  1. DMD

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    As I understand it, in among the factors, is consultation with local public health professionals, so I think it's pretty much nailed on we'll stay in tier 3.
     
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    I wazz.
     
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    Wasn’t aware of that.
    There was no consultation when Tiers were first announced.
     
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    It depends what you read, and hear whether it happened in reality, or if there was in enough in the exchange of dialogue to enable the government to describe it as 'consultation', so it could be the same again, but as I see it, the Government want to be able to shoulder blame and responsibility on to the local authorities wherever possible, even if they don't give them any real opportunity to reject it.

    I get the impression there was dialogue of sorts between Hull Council and the Govt. These things do not always occur through the meetings, as I understand it.
     
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    All bang on from what I’ve heard.
    Tier 2 or 3?

    TWT
     
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    East Riding have said they will be pushing for tier 2 and making their case for it , considering we will get bundled with them (or vice versa) Im quietly confident that we will be moved to tier 2 over the christmas break ,
     
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    I wasn’t allowed to say anything until today, but it's now okay for me to share that I volunteered for the Covid-19 vaccine trials that a private Hospital is running in partnership with Pfizer. It's important that we all do our part to beat this virus. The vaccine is the one that has been developed with Russia.
    I received my first dose on Thursday, and I wanted to let you all know that it’s completely safe, with иo side effects whatsoeveя, and that I feelshκι я чувю себя немного стрно и я думю, что вытл осные уши. чувству себя немго страо...
     
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    Don’t the council get more money from the government the higher the tier
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    Purely based on snippets I've read, so do not take this as factual, but as I understand it, yes they do. I've read figures of around £28 per person, but then again, there's a bigger expenditure for Tier 3 too.
     
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    I think so
    Not sure on figures
    I do remember hearing pub landlords in Tier 2 saying they’d rather be in Tier 3 too because they can open in 2...but no one goes because you have to eat and you can only go with your own family and they get little or no financial help whereas in 3 they at least get some financial support
     
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    Come on Ron - tell 'em all your kneecaps have turned bright red and you've taken up Kossack dancing...

     
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    To cut the long story short, you've taken up drinking vodka.
     
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    Mainling it direct ;) немногонемного стрно и я думю, что вытл осные уши. чувству себя немго стрно и я думю, что вытл осные уши. чувству себя немго...
     
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    10,000 people caught covid in hospital while being treated for other ailments, sadly many of theese later died like Dave Greenfield from the Stranglers, as they say heads must roll.

     
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    An interesting article, that in my opinion has a bias toward some vaccine suppliers, but it gives some interesting insights in to the process.

    This bit in particular caught my eye as it appears to shed some light on the half dose issue.

    "Oxford hired an outside manufacturer to produce large quantities of the vaccine for the trial. But when researchers received a sample of the vaccine and measured its strength, they noticed something strange. Using a different measurement technique than the manufacturer, Oxford found the concentration of viral particles in the vaccine to be double the level that the manufacturer had found.

    Oxford researchers didn’t know which measurement to trust. They decided to use a lower-strength dose. That way, even if their measurement was wrong, the dosage was sure to be safe, albeit smaller than originally intended.

    Participants would get two injections, which were supposed to be about a month apart. Oxford began administering the vaccine. Within a few days, participants reported fewer side effects like sore arms or slight fevers than participants had during the first trial. The Oxford researchers later identified an ingredient in the outside manufacturer’s vaccine batch that had skewed their measurement upward. That confirmed they were using a half-strength dose."

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/08/business/covid-vaccine-oxford-astrazeneca.html
     
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    Here's a question for those that know more than me about these things, which should be just about everyone, if I'm correct in assuming that catching a virus gives immunity to catching it again, shouldn't the first step of the vaccine be finding out if you've had it and are already immune, so it leaves more vaccine for others? I think this is especially the case as, again only as I understand it, but the vaccine doesn't give you immunity, it just reduces the impact if you become infected?
     
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    In general that is correct. But in reality there are so many different variations (mutations) of the same virus group that catching a different variant can make it appear that you’ve had a virus twice. Think Influenzas, Chicken Pox, viruses that cause Pneumonia.

    I believe tests have shown a decline in antibody protection with this virus as time passes.
     
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    Is that the case with the particular virus doing the rounds?
     
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    Blimey, the pros and cons of the NHS. (NB I'm choosing to ignore the double negative, as well as the number of nurses I've seen that don't fit my fantasy.)

    The Pook family is one of several families that BBC Wales has spoken to who have raised concerns about infection control and communication within the hospital.

    "The nurses weren't wearing nothing," said Mr Pook,


    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-55248658
     
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