He's probably learned from that and won't necessarily be doing it again. He's only 39 after all, still got a lot to learn.
Ha. Cheers mate although I was being sarcastic towards Parkinsons failures to change anything at all.
Will now know the full size of the task that lies ahead Good luck, you may need it with the squad you have inherited
Sounds exactly the type of manager we didn’t need. Pretty much the equivalent of the managerial Danny Graham. Oh well another season in league one it is.
I popped on once or twice yesterday to see the score/result, The mrs had a hospital appointment and bad news, So I was apathetic to the score. She's a NHS nurse and gone in today for a 12.5 hour shift ffs. Fair do's. I know your NHS and i wouldn't give you stick for being negative mate. I have the utmost respect for you and what you all put up with. I still hope we get promotion and understand your reservations but it's not the end of the world and hopefully i can get to a few matches with the lad next season regardless of what league we're in. Keep the faith. Full time Mackem. Sunderland till i die. @Makemstine Roger is a crossdresser by the way
I think you've put the numbers wrong way round marra. According to transfermarkt, income in 18/19 was 26.5m and in 19/20 was 43.8m, so 80m. Outgoings were 9.1m and 29.6m so 39m. As you say, healthy profit.
Hi guys a couple of you have popped over to our board asking for opinions on LJ - but you won't get a straight answer because as has been said above our fans either think he was ok, or absolutely hate him. It really depends if you're a 'glass half full' or 'glass half empty' supporter. I'm in the 'he did ok' camp and I'll try and explain why (I appreciate that this is a rather long read - for the shorter version please see in BOLD below): I've been a Bristol City supporter since the 1970s. In my lifetime (53 years) we have spent 4 years in the top flight of English football. Since relegation and almost closure in the early 1980s we have spent the vast majority of my time as a supporter in League 1 (old division 3), punctuated with brief flirtations with the Championship, but during that time the closest to a return to the top flight was the 2008 playoff final against Hull where we lost 1-0 (that was under Lee's dad, Gary). Finally, after all these years, we are looking like an established Championship side. We no longer start the season just simply hoping that we get enough points to survive. We have (under Lee) been fighting at the upper end of the Championship, flirting with the playoffs, but falling away as the seasons draw to a close. It's a sad reflection of our crap history that we have enjoyed the longest sustained championship status under Lee Johnson than at any other time since the days of Alan Dicks, which ended in the early 1980s. To me that's progress in the right direction. We have built a foundation in the Championship and other teams are starting to take us more seriously than perhaps they did a few years ago. Of course, not ALL of this is down to Lee Johnson. Our billionaire owner, Steve Lansdown has invested heavily into the club, with an impressive revamping of the facilities at Ashton Gate and 2 new stands. This has certainly helped to put us on the map. Lee was given 5 years to get us to the Premiership, and he was (rightfully) sacked in July this year when achieving a playoff place became impossible to achieve. It's true that he looked like he had run out of ideas and the team appeared 'lacklustre', but again we were nowhere near relegation, and whilst the football had indeed become 'stale' and negative, for me, taking his tenure as a whole, 5 years of secure, safe championship status isn't too bad at all for a club which had gotten far too used to plying most of its trade in the 3rd tier of English football since 1981. One thing that both camps can agree on is LJs sickly regurgitating of management cliche's and spin. Some of his interviews seem as if he's quoting directly out of a Football Manager's phrasebook. He also had a habit of slating certain individuals, which isn't great and doesn't help him to come over as professional. If you can see through this - and gain promotion with him - I guess that it doesn't matter. He might take you up to the Championship (maybe), but I'd be amazed if he'd take you any further. I wish him well - and you guys - I'd enjoy a trip to Sunderland again (I was up there a couple of years ago when I took my dad to see the Tall Ships) Hope to see you guys back up here with us soon!
You would think managers would be queuing up to join us. They sign their 2-3 year contract and usually within a year or so get paid off. 2-3 years pay for maybe 10 months as manager.
wow i was hoping for Pearson this guy i though meh hope it comes good , after reading this I'm thinking another Ross and eternal mediocrity, So I'm doing what Disney recommend . When you wish upon a star your dreams come true, right that's that done roll on the match
Yes, but it's important to remember that mediocrity for you may be different to us, because of our respective recent history. We've been in and out of League 1 for years whereas you were in the Prem for years. If lJ takes you to being a mid-table Championship club then he's taken half way to where you want to be and someone else can take over at that point. That's the way I look at it regarding ourselves. A small step forward is still a step in the right direction.
Do you think some of your criticisms of Johnson might have a connection to his age, he's young for a manager. If he's been a dick to players in the past maybe he's learned to wind his neck in if it was counterproductive. Then again maybe not
Cheers for popping over mate. Just wondering what your take is on your fans chucking words like snake around about him? I read that and got twitchy. Is it exaggeration or is there genuinely something off about him?
Thanks very much for your opinions mate, its great to hear opinions of other fans My take is simply this,I can remember when that 'renowned' Manager came to our club and the rest is history Personally I couldn't give a **** how good or bad any new manager of ours was at his previous club, I will always reserve judgment until at least 15 games.. I certainly wouldn't write any manager off until they have been given a bit of time to stamp their authority with the players etc. There's no doubting Johnson has a real job on his hands with the current squad. Best of luck to him.
No. It's not his age. Really it would be better for one of the 'haters' to explain, but I'll give it a go as pragmatically as I can: Firstly you have to go back to when he played for us under his dad. He played central midfield alongside Marvin Elliott. The fact that he played for his dad grated with some section of our support - he wasn't the best midfielder, but he also wasn't the worst either, but the polarisation seeds were already sown and a vocal minority of fans started resenting his presence in the side, claiming nepotism - they also started to turn against his dad, Gary (the manager) - despite the fact we were riding high in the league at the time - never out of the top 3 for most of that season. Personally, I didn't have a problem with Lee as a player - for me it's the overall TEAM success that was more important, nepotism or not - but others felt differently and were not hesitant in saying so. The Johnson family have always been personally close to the Lansdown family, so when Lee was announced as Head Coach, the old claims of nepotism raised its head again. We ALL had enjoyed our promotional season under Steve Cotterill - and we had played some really enjoyable football too, and despite us staring relegation in the face, Lee was very much a 'meh; appointment for the majority of us and an absolutely 'no way' appointment for others. For a while, after we rescued the first season, things were ok - the football was quite good in places - we were riding high in the league, beating Man United in the League Cup and giving Man City a good game in the semi final - that was about as best as it got. From then on it was a slow slide - we picked up points - and dropped them - in long 'streaks' of results - a run of wins followed by a run of defeats - earning him the nickname 'streaky Johnson'. The football we were playing wasn't easy on the eye either to be honest - although the league table doesn't lie; we WERE at the right end of the table and in with a realistic chance of a playoff place in successive seasons. Lee, presumably in an attempt to beat his losing 'streaks' constantly changed the side around, which again wasn't popular as we fans couldn't understand the structure he was trying to achieve. Gradually, as in all football clubs, the grumbling grew to a loud roar, with Johnson Out threads appearing in the chatrooms all over the place, sparking furious debates - much to the bemusement of fans of any other club which came browsing - why would we want rid of our manager when in such a healthy league position? Why indeed, but the calls of nepotism, combined with the confusing selections (particularly in the latter stages of his tenure) along with the 'boring, negative' football eventually resulted in a delight amongst the 'haters' in his sacking. Again, I am of the 'happy clappy' camp - he was ok, not brilliant, just ok - and steadied the ship. Some would take the hit of being relegated back to league 1 so they could re-live our promotional season under Cotts - not me. There is LOADS more from both sides - stats (longest losing streak in our history vs longest period of championship stability since 1981), plus arguments over funding - as a CLUB we made a huge profit on players during LJs tenure, but a sizeable chunk of that was from the sale of 2 academy players Bryan and Reid - the 'haters' say that LJ 'sold the family silver' whereas the 'Happy Clappys' say that that pair were developed under LJ and only attained their sale value because of how LJ played them. The debate will run and run in our fan base as long as LJ remains in football!!!!!!
Interesting post thanks. I get why people didn't enjoy his football and maybe some were against him from the start, but if he can deliver us an upper end championship spot consistently while bringing on our young players (our academy is top drawer) and helping run the club at a profit I'll be happy.
