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Match Day Thread WATFORD v CARDIFF CITY

Discussion in 'Watford' started by oldfrenchhorn, Dec 4, 2020.

  1. Bolton's Boots

    Bolton's Boots Well-Known Member

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    Ah well - deserved nothing from that., and got nothing.
     
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  2. andytoprankin

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    Glad we weren’t there.
     
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  3. andytoprankin

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    Passionless. Pathetic. Pointless (in every sense).
     
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  4. Markthehorn

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    Free kicks at the end summed it all up.

    Wasted, ineffective and no threat.

    I mean did we test the keeper ?

    Too slow on the ball and made it easy for Cardiff.
     
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  5. Cornish Mark

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    I do wonder if the dressing room is a happy place to be right now. With our squad we should be well up there at the top.
     
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  6. oldfrenchhorn

    oldfrenchhorn Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    FULL TIME: Watford 0 - 1 Cardiff
     
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  7. oldfrenchhorn

    oldfrenchhorn Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    I get the feeling that some of the players are not happy with what they are being asked to do. It seems that players are moving around so much to create space that they are not in the right place to move forward. With the players we have available we could be far more direct.
     
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  8. oldfrenchhorn

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  9. Markthehorn

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    1 shot on target from 13 is pretty poor really.

    Considering we have some good attacking players with ability.

    Maybe we probably didn't deserve to lose but really cannot say their goalie was test.

    Sarr and Pedro show their inexperience and Deeney needs the ball in the area.

    I was pleased Hughes did well though.
     
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  10. duggie2000

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    That is a day and a half of my life I will not get back
    The ticket purchasing was a shambles, I bought the tickets without a problem but the app didn't work as it should and we found out after many E-mails that for some reason they found out my ticket on my wife's app didn't work properly due to it only recognising an E-mail that ceased to exist 30 years ago, queued for half an hour to reach the turnstiles only to find that my wife's barcode worked and mine didn't after another 10 minute delay they let me in just in time for the kickoff
    Cardiff are now the Welsh Millwall with the same tactics, the ref was a complete waste of time and in injury time he booked Pericia for a dive when it was a clear penalty, even VAR would have sorted out
    My first and probably my last visit to the Vic this season unless something drastic happens such as Vlad being impaled or the players all forget his instructions a pretend we are playing for a manager who knows how to manage
     
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  11. Markthehorn

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    Certainly wasn't a dive but the ref was as bad as our team.
     
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  12. oldfrenchhorn

    oldfrenchhorn Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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  13. Markthehorn

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    Picture kind of sums it all up!

    He always looks very frustrated and unhappy.
     
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    Interesting thought OFH. Why does Sarr defend so much? Do they really create space? certainly not much in front of them. It's all rather done at the same speed very little give and go directly at the opposition who know that we have a tendency to pass back or across. We have forwards who should scare the life out of most teams backed up by good midfielders & defenders but most teams look comfortable against us. Even Vlad has stopped yelling on the touchline for the players to go forward, is he frustrated too?

    One thing they need to practice is kicking a dead ball to a pre-defined spot accurately, a lot, and then more.
     
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  15. oldfrenchhorn

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    In the build up to the game we were warned not to expect anything pretty from Cardiff. They would defend in numbers and when they did attack would be looking to lump the ball onto the head of their 6'.5" centre forward. That sums it up rather well I think.
    We seemed to want to play through the middle of that massed defence, and only looked threatening when we crossed from the wings. In all my years of watching football I have known that the best way through a massed defence is to stretch them out wide. This is basic school team football.
     
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  16. Mexican Hornet

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    Watford manager Vladimir Ivic said:

    "It's not good. Especially because of our fans who have been with us for the first time after a long period. We didn't do our job in the way how we wanted.

    "We didn't start good and it's not first time. If I compare now the first and second half there is a big difference. We need to start from the first second of the game to have passion, to work hard, to fight but it's not looking like that, especially in the first 45 minutes.

    "After that we we pushed our opponent, we tried. Our problem is our game because if we played the first 45 minutes like we did the second, and we lost the game, we don't have some something to tell.

    "It's not a good result. No one from us is happy because of what's happened. We now need to think about next one now and to recover the players and to fight for the next three points."

    Cardiff City manager Neil Harris told BBC Sport Wales:

    "I thought Luton last week was a huge performance because of the scrutiny, Huddersfield was even bigger... but to come here and perform like we did in the first half and hold on, it's a big result... probably one of my most enjoyable in charge.

    "We have won three on the spin and found that clean sheet mentality and look like we have lots of ways to score a goal.

    "The mentality has been good, the spirit has been good, we are all together and playing well. Confidence breeds results.

    "It was a great boost having fans here and I am really pleased for them, it was nice to play in a stadium with some atmosphere. Having seen the noise 2000 fans can make, it would be great to have fans back at the Cardiff City Stadium."
     
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  17. Mexican Hornet

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    A bit of a broken record from Ivic really.
     
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  18. duggie2000

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    When I first started watching football the general consensus was that a team kicked its way out of the fourth division, played its way out of the third and fought its way out of the second and had to rebuild to survive in the first
    Nothing much has changed, you need to build a Champion side to fight your way to promotion and then rebuild it to survive in the Premiership our problem is our players that performed in the Premiership are not battling hard enough to win the Championship and the dilemma is do we rebuild from scratch or keep it as we are and hope we keep the points piling up
    Or change managers yet again to get the best from our top players
    Our players can shine against teams that try to play football but cannot do it against teams like Forrest, Cardiff and Wycombe
    Is it the players or the manager
     
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  19. Mexican Hornet

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    I'll sit on the fence and say a bit both, I am going off Ivic a bit though. His demeanour on the sieline looks a bit toxic.
     
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  20. Markthehorn

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    Fans getting some stick for leaving early but don’t blame them !!

    Wasn’t much to shout about.
     
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