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Discussion in 'Queens Park Rangers' started by Sooperhoop, Feb 8, 2020.

  1. Sooperhoop

    Sooperhoop Well-Known Member

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    Is it just me or does he look like Penfold from Dangermouse? Anyway he became a legend when he rinsed Peston so he'll do for me...
     
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    Every year between Christmas and New Year the missus and I go an a pub crawl in Leamington with two other couples. Gets a bit messy, but great fun.

    If we remain in tier 3 obviously this won’t be happening this year, but if we scrape into tier 2 by then an interesting challenge arises .........how many ‘substantial meals’ can we consume in an afternoon/evening?
     
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    A lot of food is going to get chucked away under these daft rules. Don't forget you're supposed to be eating outside, too.
     
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  4. Sooperhoop

    Sooperhoop Well-Known Member

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    Matt always has his finger on the pulse...:grin:

     
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    ELLERS Well-Known Member

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    I will let the horses take it then.
     
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  6. Bwood_Ranger

    Bwood_Ranger 2023 Funniest Poster

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    Fauci taking the piss out of how quickly the vaccine has been approved by the UK. Quite good bants actually.
     
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  7. rangercol

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    Some geezer on 6pm news saying that, even post vaccine, someone could still carry the virus in their nose and throat and be infectious.
    Surey not?
    Beth?
    Stan?
     
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  8. sb_73

    sb_73 Well-Known Member

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    Think the real expert Beth answered this in post #14139.
     
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  9. kiwiqpr

    kiwiqpr Barnsie Mod

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    the vaccine might stop you getting sick but you would still be able to pass it on if you are a carrier
     
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  10. rangercol

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    Mmm. Not sure.
     
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    kiwiqpr Barnsie Mod

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    Taking the position of the Swiss pharmaceutical regulator - we need to see more data before approving this vaccine which uses novel biotechnology - does not make one a radical nutjob antivaxxer.

    Incomplete data stalls Swiss authorisation of Covid-19 vaccines

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    The government has already placed orders for several million shots of vaccine from three manufacturers: Pfizer/BioNTech, AstraZeneca, and Moderna. Keystone / John Cairns
    Switzerland’s medical regulator Swissmedic says it lacks the necessary information to sign off on three different coronavirus vaccines ordered by the government.

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    The regulator said important data on safety, efficacy and quality are still missing. It has reached out to the manufacturers, who provided data from their studies.

    “We lack data on the effectiveness of the clinical trials and on the important subgroups that participated in these large studies,” said Claus Bolte, head of the authorisation division at Swissmedic, at a press briefing on Tuesday organised by the Federal Office of Public Health.

    For example, Swissmedic wants to know about the pre-existing illnesses of the people who took part in these studies. According to the regulator, acceptance of such rapidly developed vaccines requires a high degree of trust in manufacturers and approving authorities. It is therefore important to examine very closely the effects on different groups of people.

    Rollout plan
    The government has already placed orders for several million shots of vaccine from three manufacturers: Pfizer/BioNTech, AstraZeneca, and Moderna.

    At the press conference, authorities said vaccines will be offered free of charge and priority will be given to the most vulnerable groups and health workers. The services of the army will be enlisted to ensure stockage and distribution and the country’s 26 cantons will be in charge of setting up vaccination centres.
     
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  12. kiwiqpr

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    Britain to cover COVID-19 vaccine side-effects under damages scheme
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    (Reuters) - Britain will pay individuals who suffer any severe side-effects from COVID-19 vaccines under an existing programme, the government said on Thursday, ahead of a rollout of Pfizer and BioNTech’s vaccine in the country following emergency approval.



    A man wearing a protective mask uses a phone at a bus stop, amidst the spread of the coronavirus disease (COVID-19), in London, Britain December 3, 2020. REUTERS/Henry Nicholls
    COVID-19 will be added as a "precautionary step" to the list of diseases covered for potential liabilities under the Vaccine Damage Payments Scheme (VDPS), the Department of Health and Social Care said. It added that vaccines would be deployed only after stringent checks. (bit.ly/3mEuZ3I)

    Compensation for any possible side-effects from a COVID-19 vaccine has been the subject of much debate in recent months, as drugmakers and governments around the world have worked in record time to develop and approve vaccines against the illness which has created havoc worldwide.

    Britain's VDPS was set up in 1979 and covers victims of side-effects caused by common vaccines, such as those against measles, influenza, smallpox and tetanus. In 2009 the vaccine against the H1N1 swine flu was also briefly added to the list. (bit.ly/2KZCB2N) (bit.ly/33GyIXa)

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    Under the scheme, individuals are entitled to a lump sum capped at 120,000 pounds ($161,676) if they can prove to have been seriously disabled as a result of a vaccination.

    The scheme is meant to dissuade people from seeking compensation through lengthy and costly court proceedings, but has been criticised for the cap and its restrictive conditions.

    “The current scheme is not really adequate for the current situation. If adverse events occur, the route to compensation is too complicated. It would be much better if the government set up a bespoke scheme for COVID-19,” said Duncan Fairgrieve, of the British Institute of International and Comparative Law.

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    Britain said it would continue to monitor the safety of Pfizer and BioNTech’s vaccine after the country on Wednesday became the first in the Western world to approve a COVID-19 vaccine.

    The emergency use authorisation does not include liabilities, however, unlike a conditional approval granted by the European Union.

    ($1 = 0.7422 pounds)
     
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  13. qprbeth

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    Hi Col.
    I am not really an expert, but I believe this is my understanding

    Seems that everyone has the wrong idea about this. It doesn't stop you getting infected. If some one sneezes Covid into your face...You are going to get a lung full of virus, and they are going to replicate. If you are unprotected or niave, the virus will multiple and spread before your immune system, which have never seen the buggers before get their act together to make a response....and you get symptoms.

    However if you are vaccinated ...the immune system is like a loaded and half-cocked gun. It is ready to go...and stops the virus before it has gone very far..
    So if you look at it in a different way..unprotected you may have 10-15 days with a high vial load in your breath, sneeze cough.
    Protected you may have a small viral load in your sneeze or cough for 1-2 days.

    So it protects you from getting seriously ill...and because when you are infectious it is a short time and very low levels..it protects those around.

    And if you sneeze with your low levels of virus into the face of another vaccinated person...the levels they get will be subdued even faster.

    No you are not un-infectious, but you are a lot less infectious for a lot less time.
    Im 10-15 days you may meet 20-50 people.
    In 1-2 days you may meet 5-10 people...and the "viral load" the virus you sneeze out is a lot, a lot less.

    And if that person is vaccinated, or wearing a mask our outside 2 metres...they wont really get any dose at all

    I hope that makes sense
     
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  14. ELLERS

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    Amazing really? It seems because we have been first to okay the vaccine, we are some how cutting corners. I watched the SkyNews reporter destroy some German who was saying just that. Funnily the EMA HQ is based in London because they believed we had the best people... apparently now we don't?
    It's all a load of one-upmanship. Let them count staples.
     
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  15. Bwood_Ranger

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    What? Do you know who Fauci is?
     
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    Creative midfielder? Bang-on attacking full-back. Ah, whatever, sign him up if he’s young we’ll make a mint next season.
     
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  17. rangercol

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    Thanks Beth. Yes it does.
     
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    Wasn't he the fella who stood behind Trump when he was sounding stupid about vaccines? Or was he the fella who has since apologised?
     
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  19. Sooperhoop

    Sooperhoop Well-Known Member

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    Funnily enough my first thought on seeing the name was he should have been a footballer...
     
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