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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

Poll closed Jun 24, 2016.
  1. Stay in

    56 vote(s)
    47.9%
  2. Get out

    61 vote(s)
    52.1%
  1. Bwood_Ranger

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    The left wing of Labour are really tiring. Credit to the Tories they’ll always look at the bigger picture even if it means caving in entirely to the far right.
     
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  2. kiwiqpr

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    Sunday, 4 October 2020
    The SNP hall of shame



    The other day when Margaret Ferrier travelled up and down the country as if she had the intention of going down in history as Covid Maggie, I began thinking about scandals involving SNP politicians. How many have there been. I’ve lost count.



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    1. Derek Mackay sending text messages to a sixteen-year-old boy telling him he was really cute.

    2. Mhairi Black bringing a drag queen called Flowjob to a primary school

    3. Derek Mackay spending £230 million on ferries that were not built

    4. John Swinney overseeing an exam fiasco leading to marks being inflated

    5. John Swinney being responsible for teaching primary school children about anal sex, rimming and pornography.

    6. Natalie McGarry resigned the SNP whip because of fraud offences relating to the Women for Independence group. She pleaded guilty was convicted and jailed, but later had the conviction quashed. She still faces trial for embezzlement.

    7. SNP coverup over the Covid outbreak connected with Nike in Edinburgh

    8. SNP Government involved in clinical waste storage scandal

    9. SNP MPs Chris Law, Ian Blackford and Brendan O’Hara had expenses claims totally £760,000 from the UK Parliament. They were the three with the highest claims out of all MPs.

    10. Ian Blackford made a 600 mile trip to Skye while complaining about Dominic Cummings making a trip to Durham.

    11. Scottish businesses complain that they don't get as much in furlough as colleagues in other parts of the UK

    12. SNP have been criticised for failing to pass on money received to help Scottish businesses.

    13. Proportionally more elderly Scots died in care homes than anywhere else in UK due to SNP incompetence when it sent sick elderly people from hospitals to care homes. The report looking at this action has been delayed

    14. Students were unnecessarily sent back to campuses across Scotland leading to an increase in Covid cases plus students being imprisoned in their halls of residence.

    15. Mark John Kerr SNP member of North Lanarkshire Council was charged with sexual abuse.

    16. Ian Blackford made an 88-mile round trip at the height of lockdown to visit Broadford hospital. He wasn’t ill and didn’t need to go.

    17. Peter Murrell although SNP chief executive knows nothing about what the leader of the SNP says or does nor what goes on in his own house. Sturgeon know just as little about him.

    18. SNP claimed EU left a light on for Scotland, but it was the SNP that paid for the stunt

    19. Linda Fabiani SNP MSP telling Linda Evans “I am afraid that I am becoming uncomfortable” with questions and answers at the Salmond Inquiry.

    20. SNP spent 9 million on laptops for needy school children, but didn’t give them out.

    21. SNP appointed Chief Medical Officer for Scotland Catherine Calderwood visited her second home despite telling everyone else not to do so.

    22. SNP had plans to suspend jury trials during Covid until an outcry made them change their minds

    23. Neale Hanvey suspended by SNP for using anti-Semitic language later readmitted

    24. Aberdeen locked down in August, but Glasgow not locked down later despite having many more cases.

    25. Angus Robertson looking forward to the death of elderly No voters. Not a good look when the SNP are responsible for care homes.

    26. Nicola Sturgeon’s perfect hair that we are supposed to believe she did all by herself even the back

    27. Steven Bonnar SNP MP charged over a street disturbance

    28. A spreadsheet error delayed the opening of Edinburgh’s Sick Kids hospital. The Queen Elizabeth Hospital in Glasgow was also affected by SNP incompetence in running healthcare in Scotland.

    29. SNP are not much better at building bridges as Queensferry crossing is closed because of falling ice shards.

    30. John Mason compared IRA murderers to ANC freedom fighters.

    31. John Mason refuses to represent unionists.

    32. Alyn Smith SNP MP tells people they are on an SNP naughty step database.

    33. Alex Wilson SNP councillor got together with his wife when he was twenty and she was thirteen.

    34. Angus MacNeil charged the taxpayer for the cost of his hotel when entertaining his mistress

    35. Angus MacNeil had three in a bed sex with 17 and 18 year old girls

    36. Stuart Hosie stepped down after revelations about his extra marital affair

    37. There is rumoured to be a super injunction taken out by a senior SNP politician about something we are not allowed to talk about.

    38.Scotland keeps falling down the world’s educational league tables

    39. Mark MacDonald SNP MSP suspended by party after admitting his inappropriate behaviour caused a woman considerable distress

    40. Frank Anderson SNP councillor suspended for sharing an anti-Semitic blog

    41. Michelle Thomson withdrew herself from the SNP whip over police investigations into fraud. The case was later dropped.

    42. KennyMaclaren SNP councillor suspended for book burning.

    43. Former SNP MP Tasmina Ahmed-Sheikh was found guilty of professional misconduct and fined £3000.

    44. Lewis Ritchie SNP councillor suspended over an alleged fracas at the SNP party conference

    45. Donnie Kerr SNP councillor suspended for describing a colleague as a “stupid bitch” during a meeting.

    46. Alex Salmond accused of sexual assault and attempted rape. He was acquitted. He did admit to having consensual sex.

    47. Alex Salmond accused of bullying members of staff.

    48. There was allegedly a policy of not allowing female workers to be alone with Alex Salmond.

    49. Nicola Sturgeon has been accused of failing to cooperate with the Salmond inquiry. Is this because there is something damaging about what she knew during the independence referendum in 2014 or is it for another reason?

    50. Peter Murrell has been accused of obstructing the Salmond inquiry. What is he trying to hide? Why does he need a law firm to help him keep his secrets?


    The SNP has a terrible record of mismanagement and scandal. The campaign for independence has let into public life people who are completely unsuited to it.

    The SNP is extremely secretive. It has turned Scotland into a place in which the press dare not investigate and women are not believed if they complain about senior SNP politicians.

    There are important facts about senior SNP figures that are unknown. What did they know about Alex Salmond's behaviour during the independence referendum. Did anyone in the SNP attempt to cover up the story then. Did the press know about it? If so why did it keep silent. If a story as big as the First Minister's misbehaviour can be kept secret for years, what other stories were not told?How many more scandals have yet to come to light? How many never will?


    This list is long. Thank you to everyone who helped me compile it by commenting so helpfully on Twitter. But what we must all remember is this. The list of shame is going to get ever longer until Scottish voters kick the SNP out.
     
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    does it count a half a mask

    MEP’s Gagging Order After Illegal European People’s Party



    As Britain’s lockdown debate continues to revolve around whether scotch eggs constitute a substantial meal, over on the continent this year of the pandemic is coming to a climax in a truly European way. This morning police broke up an orgy – or as the French call it in the article, “a game of legs in the air” – in a central Brussels bar involving 25 men, among whom included at least one MEP as well as a number of diplomats. The unnamed MEP is now claiming diplomatic immunity, leading to the public interest manhunt of the year…

    Prior to claiming diplomatic immunity, the anonymous MEP attempted to flee through a window, only to injure himself and give up. Depending on how serious the injury was, he may now have to sit in the European Parliament as a non-attached member…

    It’s not as if the Belgian police – who currently have to enforce a maximum of two “cuddle contacts” for citizens who live alone – had a hard time tracking down the illegal party-goers, given the street the bar is on also functions as the police station’s car park

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    Incredibly, Brussels has form when it comes to lockdown carry-ons. In 2015 when the city was in lockdown fearing a Paris-style terrorist attack, Belgian soldiers and police enjoyed a 10 person-orgy themselves while their colleagues hunted for the Paris terror attack suspects. Post-Brexit Nigel must be missing it all…

    UPDATE: Local media is reporting that a Hungarian MEP was present at the drug fuelled orgy, which took place on the first floor of a bar on Friday night. By sheer coincidence a Hungarian MEP from the governing Fidesz party suddenly resigned yesterday…

    UPDATE II:The recently-resigned Hungarian MEP József Szájer has confirmed he is the culprit. Readers may enjoy learning that Szájer recently helped re-write the Hungarian constitution to include “Hungary shall protect the institution of marriage as the union of a man & a woman”…
     
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    And he is what a c*nt looks like...
     
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    Toby Young
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    So, a minority of MPs — 291 — voted to impose these pointless, ruinous restrictions and the remainder either didn’t show up, abstained or voted against. I don’t see how people can be expected to comply with them now and the police shouldn’t enforce them. This is minority rule.
     
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  6. Bwood_Ranger

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    We could have applied this sort of logic to Brexit if Cameron wasn’t so afraid of the flag shaggers. Oh well.

    Toby Young is a QPR season ticket holder which has no impact on this issue at all.
     
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    You are right. Everything revolves around fish and crowds of muppets joyfully clapping at the heroic defense of fishermen numbering less than 12,000 ( less than the potential redundancies of Arcadia).
     
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    The reason that number of UK fishermen have dropped under the EU is the effect of the Common Fisheries Policy which gives the majority of fishing in UK waters to other member states. For example, UK fishermen are allowed 9% of cod from The Channel, whereas French fishermen are allowed 84%.

    Post Brexit, fishing quotas in UK waters for EU member states will be negotiated by the UK government, not decided in Brussels
     
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    Fishing is an economic irrelevance, but it's a convenient rallying point for the jingoists.
     
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    I’ll have you know middle-class southern Brexiteers have always given a **** about Grimsby fishermen and as with everything else since the Brexit referendum was called aren’t suddenly pretending it’s always been hugely important to them.

    There is no greater act of patriotism than liberating would-be Dutch or French fish.
     
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    As I've said, it's not about money. There's the no-border, no-nation cult where life is ruled by distant, unaccountable over-indulgent bureaucrats

    - or simply a belief in nations trading with each other and national governments looking after their people
     
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    Let the fish decide.
     
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    Actually, that has been an EU argument. That fish born in Spanish waters that then migrate to UK waters are part Spanish.... Didn't carry much weight as it conflicts with centuries of practice
     
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    Can see a lot of sub-par English fish declaring for Ireland.
     
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    And another one. That's one per day this week...

     
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    Covid could well be the final nail in the coffin for the High Street, particularly in view of the popularity of out of town megastores and online sales
     
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    More great news from Croydon Council, their brand new library just along the road from me in South Norwood is to close, even though it never opened! Sewage problems seem to have finally done for it, which is rather fitting for the hapless developers Brick By Brick, they've had similar problems elsewhere in the Borough. Another one to file under 'You couldn't make it up'...

     
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    And who is going to enforce that?

    Talking about UK waters is about as nonsensical as Trump's wall. It's a sea. It doesn't belong to any sovereign nation. Perhaps some people who are old enough to remember the Cod Wars of the early 70s were young enough then to remember that territorial waters which had been drawn 12 miles from the shore then miraculously became 50 miles because a minister passed a statutory instrument. I don't think there was a walled or fenced border guarded by snipers. As I recall we had a dedicated frigate policing hundreds of miles of open sea.

    What about the fish? How do we know they are British fish as opposed to illegal migrants? Di they need passports to enter British waters? Or are we happy to let them all in without proof of means of self-support..
     
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