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S.A.F.C. - the future

Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by alan reed, Jul 24, 2020.

  1. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    Minority shareholders are very rarely involved and, at best, tolerated for their 'investment'.

    As far as 'taking the shine off' is concerned I have to say, haway man. It's a million miles from shiny now. My focus would be entirely on the new owners, the people they bring in and the effect they have on results.

    Some people seem obsessed with Donald & Methven and how they think Dreyfus will allow them to run him and the club.

    I think it's absolute nonsense but that's their opinion and I'm not interested in trying to change it.
     
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  2. Paperback Ruiter

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    Board are clearly using the 'takeover' as a reason not to act. Disgraceful. Letting the football side wither will only lose fans. Many won't be back no matter what happens.
     
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  3. Smug in Boots

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    Probably my favourite ever season.
     
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  4. Sunderpitt

    Sunderpitt Well-Known Member

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    Anybody who is really in the know, can they say at what stage the takeover is at?
     
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  5. Millfield Maestro 1879

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    Moyes was far worse than Parky. At least Parky hasn't publicly thrown in the towel yet (even if his actions suggest that he has) and said that promotion isn't a possibility.

    Moyes doesn't use the flair players now at West Ham but they seem to be doing OK. So maybe his approach does work sometimes.[/QUOTE]


    Agree on that difference, Parkys first game was full of promise too
     
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  6. The Norton Cat

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    Thing is, is there any point replacing Parkinson only for the new owners to replace that replacement? We need the takeover completed as quick as possible.
     
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  7. Smug in Boots

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    Donald knows that and has been playing games imo ...

    ... time for his fun to stop.
     
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  8. Kermit

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    My position is simply to not make a final judgement until we know the facts. Some people are sceptical, as in my case, others are getting carried away. Weve all had our fingers burned by doing the latter with regards takeovers.
     
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  9. Kermit

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    They do not care at all. They are an absolute disgrace.
     
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  10. Scootsie

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    Because he doesn’t know any other way.
    What we’re seeing is typical Phil Parkinson football.

    He’ll walk into another job regardless, probably a struggling team who will gladly go away to the likes Fleetwood and Doncaster and be absolutely buzzing with a point.
     
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  11. Smug in Boots

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    I'm not being difficult but that seemed to be precisely what you did in your opening post, and what people see as negativity. Despite honest posts from people and media reports you're choosing to dismiss all of that because of your hunches. That's fair enough but you can't be negative while insisting you're not.

    "I can only see two outcomes as things stand. Either nowt is happening and they are drip feeding bullsh*t to those uneducated, northern oiks to keep them off their backs while they have another crack at promotion, or a redistribution of a few shares to keep said uneducated, northern oiks off their backs while they have another crack at promotion."
     
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  12. rooch 3

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    And the only difference is we had a team probably no better than these but they tried their hardest and believed they were better.
     
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  13. Paperback Ruiter

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    thats the problem mate off field uncertainty is giving these jokers free reign to let the club fade off on the pitch. We need out of this limbo state immediately.
     
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  14. Red n white Tractor

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    If there’s some posturing between the sellers and buyers over some of the finer detail, is Donald allowing this to drift because he hopes the new owners wouldn’t want to take the club on if it got much worse and therefore hoping they blink first. Ie just agree to some of his terms to get in before it gets any worse?
    That would be a big gamble and when people say he’s playing games, I hope it isn’t this one.
     
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  15. Smug in Boots

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    Donald is using the situation to eek out a few extras and hoping they'll crack to get him to sign ...

    ... he has form for it.
     
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  16. Lozza80

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    A see the methven text messages have been leaked on twitter , doesn't make good reading really could do with a clean slate from these cowboys mind . Not sure the timing of these coming out now is good mind
     
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  17. Kermit

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    Aye mate, that is my personal feeling i have to admit but im holding off on my final verdict. If the guardian report is to be believed, those two are involved. That appears to be the best case scenario in this. The lads who are getting and posting info are, im certain, doing so in good faith. I am wondering what the original source of that info is.
     
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  18. Alebeac

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    The caretaker at my school would have been better and he only did the cleaning. Parkinson makes Howard Wilkinson look light hearted and chatty.
     
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  19. Glencoe

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    Phillips got a bit of stick for saying it needs to be a clean break from SD and CM, but he's spot on.

    I would obviously take someone else pulling the strings but we need these two chancers gone for good.
     
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  20. Lozza80

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    Deffo for someone whos profession is pr he really is **** at it , the second things started going wrong and fans stared asking questions they showed their true colours , can't stand the pair of them
     
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