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  1. DMD

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    The lockdown ended up being too late if the stats are anything to go by. The rate of increase was already shrinking and now Wed-Sat this week is 28k cases DOWN on the same four days last week. Hospitalisation and deaths will follow trend.
     
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    Long term Covid symptoms could be a big problem to our NHS system. Switch off if your bored or think your Tarzan but after infecting the wife she coped fairly well and quickly recovered within a week yet my reasonable fit slightly balding middle aged frame is still having problems. Basically I went back to work through need but after two days had to get in touch with my GP after developing a fast or irregular heartbeat and severe exhaustion after attempting tasks which normally wouldn’t bother anyone which is scary when you’ve never had it before. Obviously being Asthmatic has not help my cause but this threat is real and reports about the potentially severe after effects of this Virus seem to be validated more and more each week.
     
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    Channel 4 programme 9pm tomorrow night

    Is Covid Racist?

    pretty appalling that
     
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    I'm sorry to hear of you problems. I'm certainly not claiming that it's a hoax, or trying to devalue anyone's personal experiences. My issue is more that there seems to be some issues with the data as it is collected, and as it is presented, and that is impacting on the measures being put in place, which are themselves creating other problems of their own.

    I find the desire to stop discussions beyond the narrative presented troublesome, and can see it being used in other future situations.
     
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    Tbh I’m starting to think these lockdown are not about our health, more about control.
    If the Gov were serious about our health - alcohol, cigs & sugar kill far far more.

    I think the virus is very real but the gov are using it as an excuse, but I don’t know why
     
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    ~50k deaths within 28 days of a Covid test.

    ~70k excess deaths.

    How can there be a difference of 20,000+ people?
     
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    I am quite happy to take any vaccine available. If it's approved by the MHRA, it will be fine.
     
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    No worries mate.

    Had posts deleted on this subject so Covid restrictions must be working...
     
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    we have you got that figure of 77k excess deaths from? I have seen anything like that anywhere E1D0CF81-71AC-490C-AEDE-E808A8CD27F3.png
     
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    Sorry I’ve made a typo. I meant ~70k. I’ll edit my post.

    Still, it’s more than the graph.

     
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    Not according to the ONS!
     
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    Wonder where the BBC are getting their stats from.
     
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    a variety of sources it lists....

    the graph is the same as the one I put up, just a different format, 90% of the excess are in 3 months around April & it doesn’t add up to 70k lol

    like much of the data around, it doesn’t add up
     
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    I've wondered that from the start. I love the way they have two graphs representing the same data, with different shapes. They could do with some scientists on board. (I do not have a high opinion of most journalists, having met some)
     
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    What kind of control, though? The rise in cases happened roughly around the time children went back to school, but they said they wanted kids in school and haven’t closed them. They wanted to open up because of the hit to the economy, but shutting everything is counterproductive to that.

    I don’t think our government are clever enough to have any sort of sinister motive for lockdown.

    I think they want to look good, so they say the right things and put things in place that makes it look like they could be seen to be doing something relatively decent, but in actual fact the measures aren’t enough.
     
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    I'm pretty sure I had Covid back in January before we really knew what it was. Pretty sure I got it from a mate who's pint was off. He couldn't taste it so I took a sip to check, obviously he had lost his sense of smell and taste. I was off work for a week with the worst "flu" I'd ever had. To this day my legs and joints are not as they were. My exhaustion has eased but still get breathless now and again. There's something to this Long Covid and I hope it ****s off soon.
     
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    You mean this whole pandemic thing is actually being dealt with by Politicians...rather than all this apparent ‘scientific ’ stuff we keep hearing and reading about?

    I feel plain dumb now.
     
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    Looks like this ruffled a few feathers.
    Big Brother fury as the government uses Twitter as a propaganda tool to attack the Mail's coronavirus analysis
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