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  1. qprbeth

    qprbeth Wicked Witch of West12
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    Stan..this a " look we are still here" press release.
    A standard vaccine rather than a mRNA will always take longer..
    This is just a kick to remind us


    Yes this is the one most of us will get
     
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    At £2 a shot, I imagine it will be.
     
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  3. Sooperhoop

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    Had an eye test this morning. Optician said "Look into this screen and tell me what you see"

    I said "I see a Chinaman eating a bat, Pubs closed and people wearing masks"

    He said "Excellent, you have 2020 vision"...
     
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  4. kiwiqpr

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    start to worry
    we are too late for a vaccine

    the bloody virus has mutated so much its evolved into a form capable of pushing you off a ladder


    Builder, 51, who died after falling from a 10ft ladder was actually killed by coronavirus, doctors say
    • Builder tested positive for coronavirus after he was pronounced dead by medics
    • Postmortem led to diagnosis of acute respiratory distress syndrome (ARDS)
    • This is a life-threatening condition normally resulting in hospitalisation
    • Scientists said the condition, triggered by the virus, caused the man's death
    By Luke Andrews For Mailonline

    Published: 01:57 AEDT, 19 November 2020 | Updated: 02:14 AEDT, 19 November 2020






    A builder who died after falling from a 10ft ladder was actually killed by Covid-19, scientists have claimed.

    The man, who has not been named, suffered lacerations to his forehead and bruises to his face, elbow and left hand after he fell into the yard of an under construction family home.

    Medics were called and rushed to the building site, in Croatia, and desperately tried to revive him, but he was declared dead at the scene.

    A test for coronavirus was then carried out, as required by local medical guidelines, and came back positive.

    An autopsy revealed large sections of his lungs were blocked - leading doctors to diagnose acute respiratory distress syndrome (ARDS).

    The life-threatening condition, which normally results in hospitalisation, is triggered when vital organs do not get enough oxygen.

    Academics at the University of Zagreb said the Covid-induced illness had caused his fall, which they argued meant the death must be recorded as a Covid-19 fatality under World Health Organization (WHO) guidelines.

    The scientists said the evidence 'unequivocally' led to Covid-19 being to blame for the death — but they did not specify how.

    Experts today suggested the man may have lost his balance while climbing the rungs, leading to the fall, which would make Covid-19 to blame. They added that going up a ladder while suffering from ARDS was the 'last place I would want to be'.

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    The builder, 51, tested positive for the virus after his death. Scientists said that he had been suffering from acute respiratory distress syndrome (ARDS), triggered by the virus, which they said had caused him to fall from the ladder. (Stock)

    WHAT IS ACUTE RESPIRATORY DISTRESS SYNDROME (ARDS)?
    Acute Respiratory Syndrome, or ARDs, is where the lungs cannot provide the body's vital organs with enough oxygen.

    The condition is life-threatening, and most people who develop it end up in intensive care units. Many are already in hospital when this happens.

    It is triggered when the lungs become severely inflamed from an infection, such as Covid-19, or injury. This causes fluid from nearby blood vessels to leak into the lung's air sacs, stopping the body from absorbing enough oxygen.

    Due to the drop in oxygen availability, the vital organs start to respire anaerobically - without oxygen - in order to create enough energy to keep working.

    But this causes lactic acid to build-up which, when in high concentrations, can trigger a cardiac arrest or organ failure.

    What are the symptoms of ARDS?

    • Pneumonia or severe flu;
    • Sepsis
    • A severe chest injury
    • Accidentally inhaling vomit, smoke or toxic chemicals
    • Near drowning
    • Acute pancreatitis - a serious condition where the pancreas becomes inflamed over a short time
    • An adverse reaction to a blood transfusion
    Source: NHS




    Journal of Forensic Pathology by pathologists led by Velibor Puzovic from Dubrovnik General Hospital.

    The WHO defines a death from Covid as one 'resulting from a clinically compatible illness, in a probable or confirmed Covid-19 case'.

    But the organisation also says deaths where there is a 'clear alternative cause' should not be attributed to the virus.

    MailOnline has contacted the WHO for comment on whether the death was recorded correctly but has yet to hear back.

    Professor Paul Hunter, an expert in medicine at the University of East Anglia, said he would have attributed the fatality to coronavirus if he was signing the death certificate.

    'So at first sight he probably may not fit the criteria (for a Covid-19 death),' he told MailOnline.

    'But why did he fall from the ladder? Was it a heart attack caused by Covid-19 (these do occur) or was he ill and shaky from his acute respiratory distress syndrome (ARDS) and that led to his fall?

    'If I had ARDS, the top of a ladder is not where I would want to be.

    'Looking at the post-mortem report the severity of the lung and other changes due to Covid-19 would be enough to lead to death and they do say that the fall injuries were probably not life threatening in themselves.

    'And although he was only 51 he had a lot of pre-existing medical conditions. So high risk of death from Covid-19.'

    There are significant concerns that the number of Covid-19 deaths may have been over-inflated worldwide by miscounting.
     
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  5. kiwiqpr

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    you will be vaccinated

    The British government is developing a system to provide COVID vaccinated people with QR codes on their phones, which they would present to get into sports events, concerts and other large gatherings, according to reports.
     
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  6. Sooperhoop

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    Alternatively, they'll come round and paint a red cross on your front door...
     
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    You watched great plague last night too Sooper
     
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    Julia Hartley-Brewer
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    Wed morning: Govt's Covid advisers say that for every 1 day of Xmas we celebrate with family, we face 2 days of lockdown in January.

    Wed afternoon: They say it's 5 days of lockdown for every 1 day of Xmas.

    THEY ARE LITERALLY MAKING THIS STUFF UP. What more evidence do you need?
     
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    Schoolboy errors. They are just 'following the science'. When it suits. Notice how Boris in particular deflects questions he can't answer to the scientists. And then seeks to 'correct' the wrong scientific answer. One day he will master the dark arts and brief everyone beforehand with his detailed vision of what the science told him in his dream, or tea leaves. A chap has to do something now that Dom packed away his crystal ball and took it with him in his box of goodies..
     
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  10. sb_73

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    Well there was I expecting to stump up a lot more tax next year to pay for coronavirus, but lovely, tiny but perfectly formed, Rishi Sunak has let me off the hook by deciding that all public sector workers except the heroes of the NHS will take a pay freeze to cover some of it instead. £16bn for ‘defence’ but none of it for soldiers pay. Nice one.
     
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  11. kiwiqpr

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    is this bloke a conspiracy nutter
     
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    This video won’t be playable for too long!
     
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    Toy doll sized Chancellor of the Exchequer Rishi Sunak ‘how to pay for coronavirus plan #2’ is to reduce pension tax relief for high earners so everyone gets a flat rate 25%. Good idea in principle, quite socialist in fact! Like all of the coronavirus economic policy. Of course it would be better if the rate were raised for everyone to encourage saving, and a more aggressive progressive income and capital gains tax regime made up the shortfall. In my opinion.
     
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    The replies to this ...

     
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    Asymptomatic spread is not a thing. Our lockdowns of the healthy were largely for nothing, except to destroy societal health.

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    Hancock and Johnson should be imprisoned ... and all of the members of sage. Anyone seen Whitty and Vallance since their performance on 31st of October with their false charts?
     
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    This spamdemic is over, carry on with your lives.
     
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  18. Woodyhoopleson

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    I believe it is over too.

    The PCR is simply flawed to a ridiculous degree. The 1% false positive is vast when used on this industrial scale.

    The chance of cross immunity from other corona viruses is very high among a significant proportion of the population.

    Death rates are normal compared to the 5 year average, and have been since June, with the exception of those extra heart and cancer deaths, having been deprived access to the healthcare that might have saved them.

    Respiratory deaths are lower than last year and have been since the summer.

    Numbers of deaths on the ONS website are duplicated to make respiratory deaths and deaths where covid is mentioned seem like different people.
     
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    Too many depressing stories about COVID related corruption in today’s Sunday Times to detail. You get the drift.

    Also loads of ‘relax the rules at Christmas, then tighten up until Easter’ stuff, which only indicates that they have no faith in their ability to vaccinate a significant proportion of the population quickly.
     
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    Never let a good crisis go to waste.
     
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