1. Log in now to remove adverts - no adverts at all to registered members!

Saints Stuff

Discussion in 'Southampton' started by fran-MLs little camera, Oct 13, 2015.

  1. West Kent Saint

    West Kent Saint Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 1, 2011
    Messages:
    5,808
    Likes Received:
    2,989
    Ahh, Marek, he was quite a player if I remember right.
     
    #13621
  2. shoot_spiderman

    shoot_spiderman Power to the People

    Joined:
    May 14, 2011
    Messages:
    4,121
    Likes Received:
    5,284
    Loved this awayday ...
    Only 5 shots on target but got 6 as the other was an OG

    Wolves outplayed us in a way but we scored at will and sang Ring of Fire after each goal

    Guy in an empty row in front of us had clearly gone for the disco biscuit snack option at half time and danced the whole 2nd half with his shirt off. Then when we scored the 6th he stripped completely. The stewards were staring at him clearly thinking “I’m not going near him”
     
    #13622
    fatletiss and Saints_Alive like this.
  3. ChilcoSaint

    ChilcoSaint What a disgrace
    Forum Moderator

    Joined:
    Feb 8, 2011
    Messages:
    37,374
    Likes Received:
    35,291
  4. Saints_Alive

    Saints_Alive Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 4, 2011
    Messages:
    29,997
    Likes Received:
    34,443
    #13624
    garysfc likes this.
  5. fatletiss

    fatletiss Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 17, 2011
    Messages:
    57,300
    Likes Received:
    40,066
    I just remember after about 20 minutes of being battered by Wolves, “Please Saints somehow hang on for a draw here, so the little man doesn’t get upset on his first away game.”

    0-6 <laugh>

    Before the game we met my Wolves mate and his lad in a Wolves pub near the ground. My lad walked into the pub in full 5 year old kit. It was brilliant! What a day.
     
    #13625
  6. fran-MLs little camera

    fran-MLs little camera Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 18, 2011
    Messages:
    68,903
    Likes Received:
    24,152
    That’s how saints trap you.:)
     
    #13626
    fatletiss likes this.
  7. San Tejón

    San Tejón Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 6, 2014
    Messages:
    14,130
    Likes Received:
    18,762
  8. Saintmagic

    Saintmagic Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 5, 2011
    Messages:
    19,170
    Likes Received:
    13,816
    #13628
    Dark Lord SFC likes this.
  9. Che’s Godlike Thighs

    Che’s Godlike Thighs Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 28, 2012
    Messages:
    12,610
    Likes Received:
    20,336
    #13629
  10. Shandy_top_89

    Shandy_top_89 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 5, 2015
    Messages:
    3,045
    Likes Received:
    4,133
    #13630

  11. davecg69

    davecg69 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 27, 2012
    Messages:
    5,759
    Likes Received:
    6,822
    #13631
  12. saintrichie123

    saintrichie123 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 2011
    Messages:
    30,172
    Likes Received:
    34,832
  13. saintrichie123

    saintrichie123 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 2011
    Messages:
    30,172
    Likes Received:
    34,832
  14. ChilcoSaint

    ChilcoSaint What a disgrace
    Forum Moderator

    Joined:
    Feb 8, 2011
    Messages:
    37,374
    Likes Received:
    35,291
    Dear old Campbell, RIP <rose>
    I was there when he broke his leg against Liverpool, and Dave Webb had to go in goal. Such a pity he had less than a season in the top flight with us after helping to get us there.
     
    #13634
    AberdeenSaint likes this.
  15. SaintInKuwait

    SaintInKuwait Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 8, 2019
    Messages:
    1,051
    Likes Received:
    1,847

    Very good this. A supremely in depth breakdown on our system.
     
    #13635
  16. SaintInKuwait

    SaintInKuwait Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 8, 2019
    Messages:
    1,051
    Likes Received:
    1,847
    I hope that when fans are allowed back, ours have more understanding that the back pass is a choice and not an example of being negative. Too many people got on player’s backs for that last year.
     
    #13636
  17. StJabbo1

    StJabbo1 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 14, 2019
    Messages:
    8,451
    Likes Received:
    10,077
    Let's hope that analysis isn't used by the opposition.
    Seeing the wider view. I would be saying 'no get it forward', now realising the rationale after seeing the key pass forward often after drawing the opposition into thinking they could press.
     
    #13637
    davecg69 and SaintInKuwait like this.
  18. SaintInKuwait

    SaintInKuwait Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 8, 2019
    Messages:
    1,051
    Likes Received:
    1,847
    Their video isn’t rocket surgery. You don’t have to be a brain scientist to see the plan in action, both with and without the ball. It is a clear explanation of what’s going on though.

    Earlier this summer I was talking about PEHs long passes back to the keeper after moves slowed down and how it didn’t mean he was a negative player, it was a tactical choice.

    Ralph said that he wants shots on goal within a certain time of taking possession. You either move from back to front securely and at speed or you force opposition errors high through pressing and transition to shooting opportunities.

    The backwards moves are what happens if the first two aren’t possible or there are only low percentage passes. When it goes back to the keeper the opposition press and make space, as stated, but they also allow us to play long and over the top. This might concede possession but it does mean we can use our attack to force errors from uncomfortable defenders. I’ve lost count of how many direct scoring chances we’ve created from attacking player turnovers in the opposition third.

    We don’t mind giving it away if we’re giving it away far, far from danger and in an area where we can cause pressure and difficulty. If one of our CM players misses a pass through the midfield zones to Ings or Redmond, then teams can break with between 3-6 players at speed against us.
     
    #13638
    ChilcoSaint likes this.
  19. fatletiss

    fatletiss Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 17, 2011
    Messages:
    57,300
    Likes Received:
    40,066
    and the year before that and the year before that and the year before that and the year before that and the year before that and the year before that and the year before that...
     
    #13639
  20. Ronnie Hotdog (MLsfc)

    Ronnie Hotdog (MLsfc) Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 22, 2012
    Messages:
    7,275
    Likes Received:
    7,340
    Not sure this is something unique to Saints fans - I have been at plenty of other games where fans moan about this - especially England!

    The only time I really understand it is if you are chasing the game and it is late on - as then it can be worth the risk playing a pass that looks as though it may not quite be on.

    In fact I find the whole "we lose at home because of fan negativity" to be a bit simple. Saints fans are no worse now than they were under Puel/Pelligrino/Hughes - yet we didn't see a major difference between home and away results then. I get it doesn't help matters - but I think the turn-around post-lockdown was more due to the time Ralph has to work on & perfect plans rather than lack of fans.
     
    #13640
    tiggermaster likes this.

Share This Page