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well yes that’s the point - we are supposed to be in a national lockdown but no one can tell the difference because everywhere is open still!!

 

I was hoping at the very least traffic would be lighter but its just the same. Its a right pain in the arse. It was great driving round when there was no traffic

 

Probably because people want and are getting on with their lives instead of cowering from a virus that kills less than 1%.

 

He's still stinking rich. Like him or hate him, he has his head screwed on. According to Bloomberg, after a 5 for 1 split Tesla shares in September were valued at $380 billion, which has opened up bumped up Musk's wealth no end. He had to sell of property mid year to raise funds to take up cheap options in the company. I could be wrong, but I think those options gave him an extra 16.9 shares in May and July. In the article posted in September, it was said that he was just about access another tranche worth $2.9 billion after accounting for the cost of exercising the options. His estimated wealth stands at around $90 billion.

I don't like or dislike the man, but I'm happy to confess that I'd rather be in his financial position that mine.

 

And on the Covid19 front, more good things are happening. Moderna has now joined Pfizer and Biontech on the vaccine front line. Their late stage clinical trials have indicated a better than 90% effective rate in preventing Covid 19. The UK had missed the Moderna boat, but following talks with the company, they've secured 5 million doses of the vaccine. It ain't much, but with Pfizer and Biontech product and the Oxford University vaccine being developed by AstraZeneca, hopefully all will be well.

 

Of course you think it is excellent. If it were a Labour government you would not be watching because it would be fake news.

Amazingly, several of my colleagues have discussed weeks ago how giant corporations like Deloitte and Serco were coining it in because there was no tendering process for plague contracts so they charged whatever they liked.

Astonishing how the type of Nanny State totalitarian government that the Left favours has proved so bad. Socialist Sunak throwing money around like it grows on trees, fortunes wasted on Eat Out To Help Out for restaurants that will go bust anyway and paying wages instead of unemployment to workers in zombie businesses.

Only Muppets like you are so incapable of reasoning and logic that they believe all the sensationalism in The Sun and The Mirror, the rubbish peddled on Facebook or the alarmist nonsense provided by SAGE for government scaremongering. The plague estimate now up to 0.776 per cent in Hull – that is around 2,200 cases in a city of 284,000 – but no word on influenza, pneumonia or any of the other dozen or so things more likely to kill people.

Lockdown is supposed to “protect the NHS” that we pay our taxes to have protect us, but it did manage to kill 20,000 people early in the year to boost the body count; and there is the promise of more in the coming years as it became the ‘National Covid Service’ (according to one of their own GPs on the Planet Normal podcast) leaving thousands of future cancer and heart disease victims undetected. So overburdened is the NHS that how many of those seven mothballed Nightingale Hospitals (cost over £200m) have been opened?

Luckily for the companies that claim to have a cure for the plague, most of the people that get it will be old enough that they will die of old age before any undiscovered side effects become apparent. For the younger people that take it, I am sure that the lawyers will be happy to bring a class action against Big Pharma for cutting corners to get to market.

 

and I ask you again how do you therefore expect the country to get out of this current "lockdown"?
you still don't seem to understand that everyone needs to make sacrifices in order to get on top of the virus.

there is a common theme running through this and why Brexit happened - selfishness.
the country will continue going backwards until people realise that they need to think about other people and not just themselves.

 

i do find it admirable that despite all the months of evidence you still try and blame everyone but the current government for the destruction they have brought on the country this year.

 

My Dad and Step Mum tested positive for Covid, last Tuesday. On Friday morning my Dad found my Step Mum dead in bed. My Dad is now in hospital on a ventilator. He might not see out today.

I'm against the lockdown and this is why... My Dad and step mum live in a house off a country lane and you couldn't even throw a stone and hit the next house. The virus still found it's way into their home through the carers for my step mum (not their fault). The virus is spreading through carers to people that are isolated and locked down. Meanwhile cancer diagnoses are down, kids educations are lacking and mental health issues are going through the roof. Continue to tell the vulnerable and over 65's to lock down but everything else needs to open up. I genuinely believe that this supposed prevention is doing more damage in total than covid would do on its on if everything returned to normal.

 

****, I'm sorry to hear about the plight of your family AR. Nothing said here will mean too much at all, but I'm sad to hear about the loss of your step mum, and I wish you dad all the best.

 

really sorry to hear that.
i don't agree with you but am not going to criticise whilst you are dealing with all this.

look at it this way though - if the lockdown was being observed better then less people (including carers) would be getting infected.
also if the government had got an effective test and trace system (which they should have done by now) again this would be having an effect.

you have seen how deadly this virus is - you can't let it spread through the population at the moment because cases, hospitalisations would rocket and the hospitals WILL be overwhelmed. Then the deaths will really take off!

 

So sorry to hear this AR

 

Do you not get fed up of being the Blame Boris broken record? A really sad existence in your covid cave.

You do seem to have this obsessive belief that the totally divided anti-Semitic Labour Party would have handled anything any better. Corbyn would have done his usual job of leaving all the decisions to some lunatic cabal of the membership and Marxist McDonnell would have nationalised everything back in March to impoverish the nation. I pointed out that a government that is supposed to be of the Right is behaving like one of the Left.

You clearly have reverted to the ‘do not read what was written’ before responding. Where did I say anything good about the big corporations cashing in, the “current government” or the NHS?

The “current government” is irrelevant. In your world of ignorance, you cannot see that the state machine in Whitehall does not change, no matter which flavour of political incompetents are in charge at Westminster. The Establishment continues to look after itself. They have seen off Cummings and they can handle Johnson or Starmer.

The big state is always a disaster, which is why so many of us favour small laissez-faire state that leaves it to the people who actually know how to run businesses to control the economy and keep ideological peasants employed.

 

I am sorry to read of your personal tragedy and hope that you have a better outcome with your father.

Your relatives virtually lived social distancing so lockdown made no difference to them but sadly it would appear an asymptomatic carer has had a devastating effect. I do agree with a lot of your sentiments about the fallacy of lockdown.

I live in Kingston upon Hull, where the “first wave” of the plague never really happened so they spent the summer partying and now they are top of the “second wave” charts and begging the government for help (i.e. more money).

You may not have noticed but most of the contributors to this thread are from the brainwashed unquestioning Left, supplicants to Establishment groupthink and hyperbole; and enjoying their opportunity to have a go at a government of the Right.

 

Devolution 'a disaster north of the border', says Boris Johnson

Boris has got this wrong. The problem north of the border is not Devolution. The problem is that Scotland is run by the incompetent Scottish National Party (worse NHS and worse education system than England, despite tax raising powers) and was previously run by incompetent Labour. But it is democratically elected incompetence. All he has done is given more fuel to the separatists.

 

Absolutely tragic to read your news and my greatest sympathy goes out to you and your family.

I hope your Dad somehow manages to pull through. I expect the carer will be mortified at passing on this pandemic to two such vulnerable people. Carers are in a shockingly difficult situation.

 

Deserve medals, shockingly treat and underpaid.

 

this is what a lockdown looks like
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-australia-54983104

this state has had just 36 new cases


The even have crowds back in Australia.
Just imagine if the UK had as tough a leader.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/54986182

 

Jeremy Corbyn will not return as Labour MP, says Sir Keir Starmer

Got to love schadenfreude.

The NEC, riddled with Corbynite Far Left losers, decided to let the terrorist hugger back into the party as they have not quite got around to having independent arbitration.

So much for “No tolerance for anti-Semitism”...

No option for one-man-show Starmer but to refuse to reinstate the party whip in Parliament so Corbyn will have to sit on the backbenches as an independent Marxist with a Labour membership card.

The Labour Party still as divided as the day that they let all the Trots and Militants back into the Party for £3 so they could vote in the leadership election and get The Bearded One the top job.

The pantomime season has arrived early, ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls. It is certainly not behind you.

 

Very sorry to hear that AR. Fingers crossed for your dad