Off Topic Coronavirus

Your team is allowed to function as a 'well oiled machine' after next saturday Beth !

 

I think you will find that my mocking of mr Wooden was due to his amazing quick test when knocking the government about people waiting over a week for results.

 

A lot of people did have to wait way beyond what the government said they would as well as being sent all over the country to get their test, so well done.

 

I think I may have said (as a sideline) that it was convenient he missed the Brexit debate but my main point was that he managed to get a test the next day and the results the same day. Can't knock the NHS there.

 

No one has knocked the NHS. This has nothing to do with the NHS and everything to do with your Party outsourcing the service to their mates for billions and receiving a poor service in return. You’ll still get the precious Brexit if you acknowledge this.

 

I mean this isn't surprising, not only acting too late yet again but this lockdown is a ****ing sham.

 

Well, when Boris was ill some didn't believe it, even you, only today mocked how sick he was.

I remember the interview of the NHS doctors and nurses that said he was very sick... so by your comments you obviously don't trust the NHS staff?
As for Starmer, I doubt he even uses the NHS but I am sure you would have worked that out?

 

I’m sure he was very sick. His rapid recovery is an example to us all of his strength and bravery.

 

So those NHS staff exaggerated his illness?

 

They did their jobs. It’s a shame not everyone was able to have the same level of care.

 

it's oka,y you have answered my question.

 

After Mike Yeadon mentioned that there was no excess mortality in England and Wales since June, except for a slight jump in October, which he believes is not due to respiratory illness, I checked the ONS website and found his suggestion to be true.

In mid October there was a rise in weekly mortality of about 1000 compared to the 5 year average. This is the number he suggests is what you’d expect to see if the population had not accessed the health service for a period of 6 months or so and he proposed that the increase comprised of heart disease, cancers etc.

The weekly ONS chart has a line for respiratory deaths and another for deaths where covid was mentioned on the death cert.

The 2020 respiratory line alone, when compared to 2019, is lower and there is a note that says if a death has a respiratory cause and covid was present it would be counted in both lines, duplicated.

I phoned the ONS to try and understand better and spoke to a chap who was helpful but slightly confused himself.

Example, week 42, the latest entry:

Total deaths 10,887

Respiratory deaths 989

(2019 week 42 respiratory deaths 1,236)

Deaths where covid was mentioned on the death certificate 1,379

Of the 1,379, he told me approximately 1,100 occurred in hospitals and covid was considered the main cause of death, but then he said, hang on, that is higher than the total for respiratory deaths - assuming that all deaths where covid is considered the primary cause of death would be considered respiratory.

I’m waiting on some further info that he will email me, but thought these were interesting figures.

Am I missing something obvious, or does this seem a little confusing?

 

Thank you Cologne HORNET.

I am sure you are too strong for us next week...though

 

A lot of the Covid statistics that are bandied about are flawed in my opinion.

 

My daughter & granddaughter went for a test yesterday at 11:30am were sent the results at 12:30 today,thankfully both were negative

 

US drug company Moderna has come up with a Covid vaccine that they claim to be 95% effective. Unfortunately the UK didn't place any advance orders with Moderna. The EU Commission has options for 160m doses, but our government - presumably filled with Brexit hubris - chose not to take part in the EU scheme.

 

That’s great news Peter

 

Good news Peter
My oldest daughter (not the one on the vaccine trial) has just gone for a test after a weekend of aches, pains, headche and sore throat and no with a lack of the sense of taste. Fingers crossed that she is negative too

 

Beth I hope hers is negative also

 

Thanks ..fingers crossed it is just tonsillitis