Off Topic The Politics Thread

So apparently Donald is moaning that they are allowed to accept votes 7-9 days later in PA? They must have some slow counters?

 

If you insist on being that simple about it.

20 hours will probably be more accurate in this instance though.

 

Trumps foreign policy regarding China will affect us all.

Banning Huawei and TikTok was just the tip og his iceberg

 

Except that Huawei is a threat to national security including ours

 

Man like Joe now odds-on.

 

What having dementia?
Did you see him forget the senators name and his aid needed to prompt him earlier.

 

I didn’t. But then he’s not the one frantically trying to stop votes being counted so I can forgive it.

 

Mate I don't care as it's an American thing. I just laugh how everyone is so anti-Trump when he actually has done quite well for an idiot.

 

I don't have the tine to go into the intricacies of this, but do you think we would have banned Huawei without the pressure from Trump, and continued to happily take money from China? Kiwis question was whether anyone has been affected by his policies - I have.

 

Current odds to be President;

Biden 2/9 - 1/3 - 2/9 is the shortest price and 1/3 the highest price
Trump 7/4 - 3/1
Biden is by far the favourite, at the moment.


The postal and absentee ballots are turning the tide Biden's way.

Just as Trump was declaring victory and throwing all his toys out of his pram at 7am this morning, the BBC was predicting Biden still had a good chance of winning. Trump needs a miracle now.

 

What's happening now has anyone won yet?

 

I really hope Biden wins, which seems likely now... especially after seeing Farage hold up a 10k betting slip for Trump to win

 

Trump will win if he can get the Supreme Court to rule that votes for Biden shouldn't count.

 

He really missed a trick not getting Kanye to change his name to Joe Byden for the day.

 

I think it will be a very close race. The immediate result will be challenged by the losing Party and until the courts certify a winner (early December), we won't have a final result.

The President is not actually picked by national popular vote but rather by State delegates to the Electoral College. If you win the State, you get all of their delegates to vote for you at the Electoral College. Large population States have many more delegates than the smaller ones. That is why certain States are "key" in any election.

 

Really?
The BBC’s bias on Brexit has been proven beyond doubt – your move, Tim Davie
A new report shows an overwhelming pro-EU slant in BBC coverage from just one random week. Will the new director-general take it seriously?
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/tv/0/bbcs-bias-brexit-has-proven-beyond-doubt-move-tim-davie/

 

Quotes from around the country:

“The vote-counting happening now is…. exactly what we knew and reported would happen. This is legitimate vote-counting, of ballots that were returned before or on Election Day.” — Scott Detrow, NPR

“This is an extremely flammable situation and the president just threw a match into it,” Chris Wallace said on Fox News, after Trump’s remarks. “He hasn’t won these states.

“Donald Trump called it a ‘fraud’ to continue to count votes. This does not sound like a democracy.” — Olivia Nuzzi, New York Magazine

“What Trump did tonight is shocking, even though he’s been telegraphing this for some time. He’s primed his supporters to believe any result that doesn’t involve him winning is fraud.” — Rosie Gray, BuzzFeed News

“Trump may indeed win. But he certainly hasn’t yet. And, he doesn’t get to say that your vote shouldn’t be counted.” — S.E. Cupp, CNN

“Every single serious analysis I read of this election said that it would be long and drawn out, and that Trump would try to steal the election by trying to discount late-arriving Biden votes. And now that it’s happening…everyone seems shocked.” — Anne Applebaum, The Atlantic

“Incredible how competitive Trump is with 230K+ covid deaths and kids being locked in cages and everything else. Even if Biden wins he will have to govern in a Trump country. This is who America is.” — Gabriel Sherman, Vanity Fair

“In any normal presidential democracy, this would not be a close election right now. It is only close because of our strange Electoral College.” — Lee Drutman, New America think tank

“A key question moving forward is whether public opinion polling is irreparably broken or if polling is just broken in elections with Trump on the ballot.” — Nathan Gonzales of Inside Elections.

“Biden POTUS with GOP Senate is a recipe for a horrifically nasty politics next year.” — Matt Glassman, Georgetown political scientist

“Democrats had hoped for a massive, unequivocal repudiation of Donald Trump for his mishandling of the pandemic, his raging White House incompetence, and his disdain for the rule of law. Instead, there was the sobering message that Trump’s support in key states like Florida was, in truth, greater than the polls had predicted.” — Walter Shapiro of The New Republic.

 

66 million people voted for Trump so far, America really is a ****ed up place.